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re: Derek Chauvin - Floyd cop will end up being not guilty
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:09 pm to tigergirl10
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:09 pm to tigergirl10
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OJ was acquitted. Anything can happen.
Which is the exact reason he won't be.
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:11 pm to hubreb
They gonna let him walk to cause more mayhem
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:12 pm to hubreb
This part of the article is very telling:
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Out of all the cases of ExDS and prone restraint available, the Donald Lewis case most clearly mirrors the George Floyd case. Donald Lewis was a white man suffering from excited delirium.
The police first decide to use verbal deescalation. This doesn’t work, as he runs into traffic. He says he is going to die while being restrained by the police. From 1:50 to 2:40, we see an officer use knee-to-neck restraint. Lewis’ condition does not deteriorate from prone restraint, and he continues actively resisting arrest. They then use zip ties and hobble prone restraint. At 3:50 he tries to bite the officers (this is especially dangerous for officers who would prefer not to risk exposure to HIV or hepatitis). At 4:04 he appears to call for his mom. At 5:25 a Black police officer uses knee-to-neck restraint against the white suspect. The Black police officer resumes this position seconds later. The suspect dies in this position.
The parallel to our current case does not end here. An official autopsy declared cause of death “sudden respiratory arrest following physical struggling restraint due to cocaine-induced excited delirium.” The legal team hired Dr. Michael Baden, who testified that Lewis died from “asphyxia caused by neck compression.” Baden is the same medical examiner who was hired by the George Floyd family, and made a similar finding. Baden is also the same medical examiner who was hired for Eric Garner, and declared death by “compression of the neck”. Baden is also the same medical examiner who was hired by the Brown family to examine Michael Brown, and Baden found that Brown died while surrendering, an assertion totally disproven by a DoJ investigation spearheaded by AG Eric Holder under Obama. Suffice it to say, Michael Baden has a very specific interest, and a very tenuous track record. The Court will be aware of this when weighing the autopsies.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:13 pm to hubreb
If he was following policy how can you convict him for doing what he was trained to do. If he WAS trained to restrain him until the paramedics arrived it will Be interesting to see how this all plays out
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:15 pm to RollTide1987
If I were on the jury, even if I thought that he was overwhelmingly not guilty I’m not sure if I’d be brave enough to not find him guilty. The mob will harass anyone surrounding this trial.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:16 pm to hubreb
quote:complete bullshite.
Derek Chauvin - Floyd cop will end up being not guilty
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:16 pm to hubreb
He died of asphyxiation due to the cops knee pressing in his neck.
The end.
The end.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:17 pm to hubreb
This was a great article, but most here aren’t going to bother reading it.
I encourage everyone to read it. It has very important information in it from a perspective you probably haven’t considered.
I encourage everyone to read it. It has very important information in it from a perspective you probably haven’t considered.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:17 pm to LegendInMyMind
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I think they have nearly charged themselves out of a conviction. 3rd degree murder/manslaughter should be the two options for the jury
Minn law allows juries to convict on lesser charges if so compelled.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:18 pm to 225Tyga
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He died of asphyxiation due to the cops knee pressing in his neck.
The end.
Read article
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:18 pm to 225Tyga
quote:exactly, what a shite thread.
He died of asphyxiation due to the cops knee pressing in his neck.
The end
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:18 pm to hubreb
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Let’s be clear: the actions of Chauvin and the other officers were absolutely wrong.
The article then goes onto explain why the actions were not only justified and with precedent, but also official MPD policy. Which is why I don't understand why the author thought they had to include that in there.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:19 pm to 225Tyga
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He died of asphyxiation due to the cops knee pressing in his neck.
The end.
From the article:
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The study concludes that the double-knee weight was exactly 23.3 kg plus 24% of a specific LEO’s body weight. Some preliminary information indicates Chauvin is 156 lbs, which is a reasonable estimate, as the footage shows him to be thin and of average height. This means Chauvin was exerting 90 lbs in the double-knee position, for 45 lbs exerted spread across the back and the neck (implying balanced force). 45 lbs is definitively insufficient to restrict breathing or blood-flow in the neck. The other officers are of a similar build.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:21 pm to RollTide1987
my god at you idiots trying to take up for that shite cop. 
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:23 pm to Topwater Trout
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If he was following policy how can you convict him for doing what he was trained to do. If he WAS trained to restrain him until the paramedics arrived it will Be interesting to see how this all plays out
I tend to agree with this. The actual video is graphic and hard to look which is probably what has sparked most of the outrage. But it's hard for me to imagine Chauvin looks directly in to a camera while knowingly and willingly trying to kill Floyd. What I think happened was he underestimated Floyd's medical condition. The vast amount of Chauvin's weight was on his other knee on the street. He seemed to be only trying to guess how much weight to put on Floyd to keep him controlled and guessed wrong.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:24 pm to hubreb
I don't think 2nd degree murder sticks.
Assault for sure.
Maybe manslaughter or 3rd degree murder.
Assault for sure.
Maybe manslaughter or 3rd degree murder.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:24 pm to hubreb
Excited delirium is some real shite. Dealing with them requires a lot of work to make sure others aren’t injured in the process (or they aren’t injuring themselves) and there is always the chance they just die of cardiopulmonary arrest. A huge slug of ketamine will do it but you have to be careful about its effects on blood pressure and heart rate. I know some docs use versed. Apparently droperidol was the miracle drug prior to it being removed from the market. Now it’s back but certainly less prevalent than before. Honestly as a doc I would be afraid to deal with excited delirium patients in any instance other than one in which I had multiple people holding them down and drugs at the ready.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:24 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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His trial will have all the legitimacy of a Nazi drumhead court.
Can he get fair trial?
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:24 pm to TT9
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my god at you idiots trying to take up for that shite cop.
Not taking up for anyone, I've thought it was murder... always wondered why we haven't seen earlier video... If ambulance was called because of the ExDs earlier than current video started the cop will be set free
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:26 pm to TT9
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my god at you idiots trying to take up for that shite cop.
I'm not taking up for anyone. But given what we know there's no way he's convicted of murder. Manslaughter at the very least. But Murder 2 will not stick unless this is a kangaroo court.
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