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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case

Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:40 pm to
Posted by VADawg
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:40 pm to
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Lots of people ARE letting emotions cloud their brains and removing rationality.


So your line of thinking is the only rational line of thinking?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35989 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:40 pm to
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If this girl hadn't died at the incident that occurred after the rate, it's very likely we never hear about the story either



must be nice to be omniscient. How do you divine these insights you seem so sure of?



I did not post this. You responded to the wrong person. I agree it’s a bullshite statement.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24579 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:40 pm to
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ust b/c i said she might have had consensual sex with them after flirting with them for 2 hours at the bar doesn't mean that's what i think happened. That's you assuming that's what i think.
that's simply something that could have happened here.

It could not have happened because she was incapable of consent you brainlet
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35989 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:42 pm to
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so we are going to live in a world where you drop someone off in a neighborhood, and they walk over to a 4 lane highway and get hit


How do you know where she was dropped off? A lot of idiots apparently have no issue taking the word of rapists/murders.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478616 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:42 pm to
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There is certainly nothing at all to indicate that she kept giving the wrong address and everyone got mad. It's just what you "pictured," because you have a default/ bias in favor of the defendants here.

In favor of defendants I have already said are almost assuredly guilty of 3rd degree rape?

Also, there is a lot more than "nothing". From the warrant:

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The co-defendant stated they drove around attempting to locate where the victim lived and finally dropped her off in a subdivision


Also, I recall EBRSO saying they were not pursuing charges of the 3 relating to the death.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38107 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:42 pm to


Believe you and I are on the same page ITT.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41773 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:42 pm to
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For the guy who embodies what my post is about, keep being a count.


Ehhh, you're c*nty enough for everybody here.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478616 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:42 pm to
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So your line of thinking is the only rational line of thinking?

No. Not every poster is acting emotionally or hyperbolically
Posted by Beef Tips
Member since Jan 2013
2894 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:43 pm to
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I don't see how any reasonable person could spin it as consensual. But it's the Baton Rouge jury pool, so anything is possible.


Saddest part of all is that race dynamics will be injected into this before/during the trial and if there is one black momma on the jury, no conviction. I can see a scenario where sympathetic jurors would end up seeing the fking rapists as being railroaded "real victims"
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:43 pm to

This post was edited on 2/14/23 at 10:24 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35989 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:43 pm to
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I've seen a few published references to her being dropped in a neighborhood and she was hit right outside of Pelican Lakes.


Based on a statement by the perps. You can choose to believe them. I don’t.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216547 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:44 pm to
I don’t know how they can charge them with her death.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41773 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:45 pm to
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Saddest part of all is that race dynamics will be injected into this before/during the trial and if there is one black momma on the jury, no conviction. I can see a scenario where sympathetic jurors would end up seeing the fking rapists as being railroaded "real victims"


Suss that out in jury selection, if this even makes trial.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478616 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:45 pm to
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When you imagined what could have happened, in light of the facts we don't know, what you imagined was annoying (and conscious) drunk girl couldn't tell them where her house were, so they had to let her out.

The story your mind went to was the one that painted her in the worst light

That's not painting her in the worst light, brother.

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and them in about the best.

That's also not painting them in the best light, either.

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When there are a bunch of other stories consistent with the facts, and arguably more plausible on the facts.

What is the difference other than time spent in the subdivision looking for a house? In a discussion where the clear issue is how far into the subdivision and how much time was spent there?
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24579 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:46 pm to
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I don’t know how they can charge them with her death.


we already went over this--manslaughter La. R.S. 14:31

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A. Manslaughter is:
(3) When the offender commits or attempts to commit any crime of violence as defined by R.S. 14:2(B) [third degree rape], which is part of a continuous sequence of events resulting in the death of a human being where it was foreseeable that the offender's conduct during the commission of the crime could result in death or great bodily harm to a human being, even if the offender has no intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm. For purposes of this Paragraph, it shall be immaterial whether or not the person who performed the direct act resulting in the death was acting in concert with the offender.
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 3:48 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30422 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:47 pm to
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It could not have happened because she was incapable of consent you brainlet




jesus christ dude.
i'll ask this question for the 4th time.
So what happens if the guy is incapable of consent as well, what if is BAC is .319 too and they have sex?


so it doesn't matter what the situation is, if a woman is above the legal limit, and she has sex, it's rape? nothing else matters other than the two facts of "over legal limit" and "had sex". That equals rape every time no exceptions?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478616 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:47 pm to
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I don’t know how they can charge them with her death.

I don't think they're going to
Posted by BuddyRoeaux
Northshore
Member since Jun 2019
2782 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:48 pm to
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well for starters, you're trying to make yourself the center of attention in a thread about a deceased 19 yr old that was gang raped and left stranded with an unconsciousable bac level which led to her getting struck by a vehicle travelinng likely in excess of 60 mph which led to doctors literally pulling a plug which ended this young girls life. Shut the frick up.




Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
102203 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:48 pm to
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I don’t know how they can charge them with her death.



Negligent Homicide

Negligent homicide refers to the unintentional killing of another human being through criminal negligence. La. R.S. § 14:32 notes that a murder can be determined as a negligent homicide if violated statutes and ordinances exist, which can be used as “presumptive evidence” of negligent behavior.


Negligent homicides can occur in healthcare scenarios, for instance, where a healthcare worker displays criminal negligence through the careless disregard of a person’s safety in their care, for example, ignoring lethal symptoms.


Punishment for Negligent Homicide: Negligent homicide offenders can receive an imprisonment of up to five years and a fine of $5000. The imprisonment may not be at hard labor if the victim was over ten years old; however, if the victim were younger than ten, it would incur a mandatory hard labor sentence without benefits of probations or suspended sentences for two to five years.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7360 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:49 pm to
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I don’t know how they can charge them with her death.


It would depend greatly on what can be established regarding when/how they left her. If they left her in the Pelican Lakes subdivision, then I think it would be difficult.

But if it was near the entrance or actually on Burbank, the case could be made. Leaving a significantly inebriated person on the side of a road with no sidewalks, it could be argued that being hit by a car was foreseeable.
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