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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case

Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:49 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:49 pm to
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So what happens if the guy is incapable of consent as well, what if is BAC is .319 too and they have sex?


Which of the 4 guys are you referring to here? Try not to make any assumptions with your answer.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:50 pm to
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How do you know where she was dropped off? A lot of idiots apparently have no issue taking the word of rapists/murders.




i was going off the only reporting on that subject matter, and i agree that i shouldn't fully believe their side of the story, but it's all we have at this point.
If it comes out that they dumped her on the side of Burbank, then yeah, i'd say they should get manslaughter, but based on what we have been told in the linked articles, that's not what happened.

And i can't imagine there isnt' a camera on the entrance of that neighborhood, so we should get those details at some point i would think.
Posted by Beef Tips
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:51 pm to
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So what happens if the guy is incapable of consent as well, what if is BAC is .319 too and they have sex?


The fact that at least 2 of them had clear recollection of the events when interviewed suggests that they were fully aware of what was going on. One was even explicit that she was VERY drunk.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:51 pm to
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and i agree that i shouldn't fully believe their side of the story, but it's all we have at this point.


But yet you question the rape still?
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:51 pm to
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So what happens if the guy is incapable of consent as well, what if is BAC is .319 too and they have sex?

That is not the situation here whatsoever. Did you read the arrest warrant or not?

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(1) When the victim is incapable of resisting or of understanding the nature of the act by reason of a stupor or abnormal condition of mind produced by an intoxicating agent or any cause and the offender knew or should have known of the victim's incapacity.

Go back and read the Miranda statement and tell me they didn't know of her incapacity
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:53 pm to
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We know 100% she was raped by definition of the law based on her reported BAC.


What off they “ raped” her at a .25 BAC then dropped her off with her 190 proof daiquiri which she finished prior to walking down and into Burbank?

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How many more facts do you need?


We need A LOT more facts.
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:54 pm to
Stop posting bullshite and READ THE MIRANDA STATEMENT. THEY ADMITTED SHE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT SHE WAS DOING.

holy shite
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:54 pm to
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We need A LOT more facts.




No wonder this country is going down the fricking drain. I really hope this is just an act you're doing.
Posted by Beef Tips
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:55 pm to
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Meauxjeaux


Some of you are just relentless trolls.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:55 pm to
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Which of the 4 guys are you referring to here? Try not to make any assumptions with your answer.




well she only had sex with two of them dumbass, but you read the article like you said huh, so you already know this, right?


so again, not pertaining to this situation that unfolded with this poor girl being raped and eventually dying, what happens when two really drunk people have drunk after bar sex? Is it only rape if the woman says she didn't really want to do that later that morning, or is it rape every single time as long as she was over the legal limit?
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:55 pm to
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So what happens if the guy is incapable of consent as well


Immaterial.

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if a woman is above the legal limit, and she has sex, it's rape?


Yes.

This isn't hard.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:56 pm to
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well she only had sex with two of them dumbass


Oh sorry, which one of the two were you referring to?




You really thought you did something there

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hat happens when two really drunk people have drunk after bar sex?


Make a new thread for that. This isn't what happened here
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:57 pm to
Wow…,..,
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:58 pm to
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But yet you question the rape still?





ummm, nope, i don't. This is likely a clear cut rape case.

But i also don't believe just b/c a girl is legally drunk it is automatically rape no matter what.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:59 pm to
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ummm, nope, i don't
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This is likely
Just stop already.

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But i also don't believe just b/c a girl is legally drunk it is automatically rape no matter what.



This case isn't about some girl that is .09. Stop trying to make it that way.
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:59 pm to
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What off they “ raped” her at a .25 BAC then dropped her off with her 190 proof daiquiri which she finished prior to walking down and into Burbank?



Is this for real? Okay, I'll try.

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What off they “ raped” her at a .25 BAC


Still rape. No quotation marks needed.

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then dropped her off with her 190 proof daiquiri which she finished prior to walking down and into Burbank?


Probably wouldn't even cycle through her bloodstream enough to jack up the alcohol content of her blood before death.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:59 pm to
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THEY ADMITTED SHE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT SHE WAS DOING.



no. one guy said this, not they. And we are supposed to believe him on this statement, but not on his statement about where he dropped her off, right?
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 4:00 pm to
I read the full warrant. Was one of the first to do so. If we’re gonna speculate, why not speculate across the entire spectrum of possibilities.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 4:00 pm to
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And we are supposed to believe him on this statement, but not on his statement about where he dropped her off, right?


See now you're just talking out of both sides of your arse.
Posted by jdd48
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 4:01 pm to
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But i also don't believe just b/c a girl is legally drunk it is automatically rape no matter what.



There's a huge difference between legally drunk and the BAC that this gal had. She was more than likely almost unconscious and could not make a rational decision about anything.
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