- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case
Posted on 2/2/23 at 3:40 pm to JPLSU1981
Posted on 2/2/23 at 3:40 pm to JPLSU1981
quote:but she wasn’t asking them for sex
If the sole argument is drunk female can’t legally give consent due to her BAC even if video shows verbal consent, neither can drunk male(s).
0
Posted on 2/2/23 at 3:40 pm to JudgeHolden
quote:
Without messing with you, are you the type of person who processes decisions for a long time?
Yes lol
Especially in emotionally-divisive things like this. I’m not one to pick a side early. I want to know more.
Life is not always as black and white as news articles make them appear
Honestly I don’t give a F about the victim, or the defendants, but if I’m on the jury I want to know as much as possible before deciding. And while I’m not - yet - on the jury, I definitely haven’t decided in my own mind.
This post was edited on 2/2/23 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 2/2/23 at 3:48 pm to JPLSU1981
quote:
I believe they deserve to be proven guilty and not lynched by the public mob merely because she was pretty and white and female.
4 guys take a drunk girl out of a bar and rape (oh sorry have "sex" with) her and leave her on the side of the road at 2:45 am in the freezing cold and you still err on defending them
quote:
Do we have BAC for defendant(s) yet?
How or why would they? they weren't picked up that night
Posted on 2/2/23 at 3:51 pm to JPLSU1981
quote:
she was pretty and white and female
This is a factor, but it might cut both ways with some jurors.
Pretty people do better in life. That is pretty much proven. They tend to be more easily successful, they tend to be happier, and they are more likely to be leaders than others of similar skill. I would say it follows that pretty people as victims are going to get a better shake from the jury. But maybe not.
As for her being a female, well, I am not sure that helps a lot in every rape case. Look at all the baws on here who are terrified of some gal claiming rape or "me too."
More important for this case is that she passed away, and that she is not the accuser. No one can infer that she is "crying rape" when she cannot say anything at all.
As for race, you all hash that out, like you do every day on the OT. I don't think that discussion is useful here.
I do think that social status might bear on this. She was not just pretty, white, and female, she seems to have been affluent. We see pictures of her on ski slopes, with her sorority, etc., etc. And from what I gather (and I don't know this), she went to a fairly nice high school. She was not a shrimper's daughter from Delcambre, or a paper mill worker's daughter from Port Hudson.
It may seem odd to some people that she would have gotten into a car with these country boys from a significantly lower social economic standing. The jury will have to account for that because it does not fit the way things usually happen. One narrative will be she was too drunk and vulnerable to make any other choice. There may be others.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 3:52 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:
you still err on defending them
They may very well have raped her,and if so, they deserve the punishment. Nonetheless, they still deserve a defense.
If I ever have sons I would hope someone would defend them here.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 4:03 pm to JPLSU1981
quote:
they still deserve a defense.
and they will get one. Regardless of being found guilty or innocent they still are POS for what they did....consensual or not.
quote:
If I ever have sons I would hope someone would defend them here.
There has been plenty of posts questioning why the woman gets the benefit of the doubt when drunk and men don't. but this isn't "date rape" this appears like 4 scum bags preying on a drunk girl.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 4:06 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:
How or why would they? they weren't picked up that night
He shoots. He scores.
Of course! Why didn't I think of that?
Posted on 2/2/23 at 4:11 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:
appears like 4 scum bags preying on a drunk girl.
Maybe. Probably.
But it could also be drunk woman preying on cute drunk guys and public sympathy going to the one that died in a very complicated/blurry/drunk situation.
This post was edited on 2/2/23 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 2/2/23 at 4:13 pm to JPLSU1981
quote:
But it could also be drunk woman preying on cute drunk guys and public sympathy going to the one that died in a very complicated/blurry/drunk situation.
This seems like a pretty big stretch, no? Have you really not read any of the links in the OP?
Posted on 2/2/23 at 4:15 pm to JudgeHolden
Looks like there's also a 'revenge porn' law in Louisiana now as well against sharing photos as well.
The whole 'well they drunk, too!' defense - amazing how often that has come up. Law says 'reasonable person' could judge victim wasn't capable of consent.
Words of the defendants: "I guess" and 'drunk drunk' should do it as well.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 4:18 pm to JPLSU1981
quote:
But it could also be drunk woman preying on cute drunk guys
You would be the juror that the other 11 have to convince and cause mistrials/hung juries
Posted on 2/2/23 at 4:35 pm to tigerskin
quote:
“She (Brooks) willfully got into the car, said that her rides had left her, and she got in.”
“After that point in time, there were consensual sexual acts done in that car with her and two other individuals at two separate times,” said Attorney Ron Haley.“
“Absolutely not a rape. Listen this is a tragedy, definitely not a crime,” said Haley.
“He says a video taken during the incident shows Madison Brooks was in a coherent state and knew what was happening the entire time.“
“Can you tell, that she was intoxicated, yes. To the point under the law that you say you’re in a drunken stupor, to the point that you cannot lawfully give consent or answer questions, absolutely that was not the case,” said Haley.
Haley says an argument took place between Brooks and the driver of the vehicle after they traveled around to multiple locations after the bar.
“Based on a disagreement, she got out of the vehicle. She indicated she was getting an Uber. I want the public to know, these young men or really the driver of the vehicle and the young men that were in there, did not put her off on the side of the road,” said Haley.
That's one attorney that needs desperately to reread the Louisiana Criminal Code.
An aggressive prosecutor needs to address this case. If found guilty by a jury of their peers, the defendants should all get the chair.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 4:38 pm to JPLSU1981
Have you seen and read all the reports and videos available to the public yet?
Posted on 2/2/23 at 5:01 pm to tarzana
quote:
He says a video taken during the incident shows Madison Brooks was in a coherent state and knew what was happening the entire time.“
It is truly amazing thst these idiots pass the bar.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 5:19 pm to Tigahs24Seven
quote:
It is truly amazing thst these idiots pass the bar.
Liar, lawyer, mirror, show me what's the difference?
Posted on 2/2/23 at 6:02 pm to JPLSU1981
quote:
But it could also be drunk woman preying on cute drunk guys and public sympathy going to the one that died in a very complicated/blurry/drunk situation
How drunk is this girl in your hypothetical situation? Drunk enough to stand in front of an oncoming vehicle? That drunk?
Posted on 2/2/23 at 6:21 pm to AlwysATgr
quote:
Drunk enough to stand in front of an oncoming vehicle?
Do we even know if she was standing in the road?
I haven’t heard any details of the accident.
If she’s as drunk as the BAC test says she could have even been laying in the road.
Really, really drunk people have been known to lay down almost anywhere.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 6:28 pm to upgrade
I pulled over a vehicle once in westwego that was drifting out of lane alot, and overcorrecting across the opposite lane stripe. That was the pc for the stop.
It was a white female. She could barely stand up, and barely could talk. Definitely a 98. I forgot what she blew on the intox 5000 in Gretna.
It was a white female. She could barely stand up, and barely could talk. Definitely a 98. I forgot what she blew on the intox 5000 in Gretna.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 6:34 pm to upgrade
The uber driver stated she was standing in the road when she was struck.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 6:36 pm to inspectweld
quote:
The uber driver stated she was standing in the road when she was struck.
Sauce? I’ve heard this a lot but don’t know where it came from.
Page 343 of 419
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News