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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case

Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:21 am to
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46390 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:21 am to
Misogyny is very low on the list of reasons for females at lsu being in danger. Focusing on that instead of the crime-ridden surroundings is irresponsible and ineffective.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88152 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:24 am to
It’s not something you could say earlier in the thread. Emotions were really high. But I don’t think people truly understand consent and what that threshold is. Like you said, from what we know and the accused own words, it’s pretty clear she wasn’t capable.
Posted by Beef Tips
Member since Jan 2013
2894 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:25 am to
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Ok. For all of you saying the Washington family is blindly defending him (the “dindo nuffin” narrative), take heed.

According to Kiran, the Washington family has done no such thing.


C'mon judge. No one is talking about how the family is responding to this case. Here is what I said:

quote:

Someone came on this thread, think it was a former teacher of Washington's, and claimed how his mom was an enabler for his behavior.

When disciplined, he told the teacher "wait until my mom gets a hold of you"

She created a monster who believed himself to be above accountability.

There is a reason the whole "dindu nuffin" stereotype was created.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:26 am to
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C'mon judge. No one is talking about how the family is responding to this case. Here is what I said:


Exactly. Lots of stupidity in this thread caused by projection.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6547 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:33 am to
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Focusing on that instead of the crime-ridden surroundings is irresponsible and ineffective.


Important point. That area needs to be cleaned up. I don't know how they start, but getting rid of the projects would probably be a good first step.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:34 am to
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Lots of stupidity in this thread


It’s the OT. It’s one reason we come here.

That said, JAMAC2001 has a fair point. He didn’t attribute this attitude to the family post-crime. I thought others had, but I may be mistaken.
Posted by Thundercracker
Westsylvania
Member since Nov 2022
276 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:21 pm to
I was the one who posted his former teacher's comment. She said he actually gloated and counted down the days until the parent-teacher conference. He'd say, "Only 3 more days until my mama gets a hold of you" and during the conference she had to have an administrator present for her own safety. Afterwards she would try her best to avoid him but when he'd walk down the hallways with his friends he'd say stuff like, "I hate that woman"/"That woman's so agg" very loud to make sure she heard him. She said, "Couldn't figure out how some teachers loved him. He made my skin crawl and had to watch my back. Never turned my back on him"
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 12:25 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:22 pm to
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I thought others had, but I may be mistaken.


Its not the first time this was pointed out, but the damn fallacy keeps rearing its head.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:24 pm to
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Misogyny is very low on the list of reasons for females at lsu being in danger. Focusing on that instead of the crime-ridden surroundings is irresponsible and ineffective.


Most of the time its' crime of opportunity, which can be cleaned up, people just don't have the guts for it
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36030 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:33 pm to
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Misogyny is very low on the list of reasons for females at lsu being in danger. Focusing on that instead of the crime-ridden surroundings is irresponsible and ineffective.


It’s much easier to blame some generic, statistical phenomena, than point fingers at the evil among us.
Posted by HodsonTiger13
Member since Jan 2023
737 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:37 pm to

But what else would you say about the posters both here on on the WAFB, WBRZ board saying she was drunk, wanted it, deserved it (one guy actually said that about the 12 y.o. on Facebook)?

Sure seems like misogyny and victim blaming explains a lot. And these are PG compared to the 4chan comments, which 90%+ blamed Madison as well.


Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
63372 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:42 pm to
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But it isn’t crystal clear.



Wait, the video showing her limp legs dragging across the ground as she’s carried toward the car leaves her ability to give consent to a gang bang as “unclear” to you?
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:43 pm to
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But what else would you say about the posters both here on on the WAFB, WBRZ board saying she was drunk, wanted it, deserved it (one guy actually said that about the 12 y.o. on Facebook)?


I’d say there are idiots everywhere on all sides.

I’d also say it’s dangerous to generalize from individual Facebook posters.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:45 pm to
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compared to the 4chan comments, which 90%+ blamed Madison as well.



Are you taking comments on /b/ as a reflection of real people's actual opinions?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:47 pm to
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Sure seems like misogyny and victim blaming explains a lot.


Incels always side with the bros. The Brian Laundry murder case for example.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:47 pm to
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Wait, the video showing her limp legs dragging across the ground as she’s carried toward the car leaves her ability to give consent to a gang bang as “unclear” to you?


The question will be:

—At the time of the sex
—Is there reasonable doubt
—About whether she was incapable of understanding the act, and if so
—Whether the incapacity was knowable to the offender.

You can be VERY drunk yet capable of consent. You can be stumbling drunk and yet capable of understanding sex. Some people can be blackout drunk but appear capable of consent.

This will not be a slam dunk case.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 12:48 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85871 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:49 pm to
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through his father


Posted by HodsonTiger13
Member since Jan 2023
737 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:50 pm to

Go to Facebook WBRZ and WAFB. People are willing to have their names posted there so that'd be a gauge of their true opinion.

OT or 4chan = anonymous posters and can discount those.

But go read a few pages of the WBRZ and WAFB comments and tell me that's not pure hatred of Madison.

Now, you can argue about motives but the hatred is there.

Posted by Beef Tips
Member since Jan 2013
2894 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:51 pm to
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compared to the 4chan comments, which 90%+ blamed Madison as well.


Are you taking comments on /b/ as a reflection of real people's actual opinions?


Thats how you know Judge hasn't even been on 4chan. If he had, he'd be praising the OT for its gentlemen and scholars.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:51 pm to
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But go read a few pages of the WBRZ and WAFB comments and tell me that's not pure hatred of Madison.


Condemn those people. Don’t generalize it to hundreds of thousands of people.
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