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re: Delta Downs Horse Track Raided by Immigration ICE

Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:59 am to
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70015 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:59 am to
Let’s take down every Lowe’s, Home Depot, and roofing company in the country as well
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74895 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:55 am to
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Let’s take down every Lowe’s, Home Depot, and roofing company in the country as well


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"Illegal immigrants are everywhere, so why even bother enforcing the law at all?"


Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182598 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:57 am to
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But I mean are we not trying to deport the dots that blow up our buildings?

Why are we not concerned about figuring out a way to help the poorer parts of our American society with better education? Eliminating their welfare and food stamps that we pay for?

I don’t care two cents if these Hispanics are here illegally, not committing crimes, and working their arse off doing jobs lazy Americans don’t want to do and sending their money back home to their family. Good for them for finding a way to better their family.

Seems like a large waste of time and money that could be spent elsewhere….as long as they aren’t all convicted felons



There should be an IQ test before voting. Some of you people are truly ignorant and only operate on emotions with zero basis in logic.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38079 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:26 am to
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There should be an IQ test before voting. Some of you people are truly ignorant and only operate on emotions with zero basis in logic.



thank you

some posters on here are dumb AF, on both sides. Then they want to pull shite like....I require a wife that has an Iq of 115 when the dumb mother frickers cant spell IQ.

im truely flabbergasted that anyone doesnt understand the issues that illegal immigration has caused. From all countries and the issues H1B visa abuse has caused

every freaking gas station now is owned and staffed by some form of Asian or indians and they bring their family on H1B claiming they cant find qualified workers to staff them. On top of that, many are paid for through grants. shite is insane
Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
7683 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:41 am to
Trainers responsibility to have accurate legal documentation for workers. Could care less about QH racing in Louisiana. Crooked worse than thoroughbred. Majority of jockeys carry buzzers like its nothing
Posted by couv1217
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2007
3578 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:51 am to
Tell us why you are highly intelligent on this matter Stout?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182598 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:28 am to
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Tell us why you are highly intelligent on this matter Stout?


For starters, I’m not naively saying, “Well, they were working, so it must be fine for them to stay here, despite the strain on resources and minimal contribution to the local economy, especially when much of their income is sent out of the country.”

That’s one of the most surface-level and flawed arguments I see repeated often. It reflects a lack of deeper thinking about the issue and tends to come from emotional reasoning rather than any basis in logic.

You should care that a large amount of money is being sent back to other countries. That’s a direct wealth transfer out of the U.S. economy.

Just this week, the myth that “they’re only doing jobs no one else wants” was shattered when a factory raided for illegal workers was flooded with local applicants the moment the jobs opened up.


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Another major flaw in your argument is the contradiction of saying we shouldn’t spend money deporting illegal immigrants because we need to help our own poor, while also ignoring the fact that illegal immigration takes resources that could otherwise be used to support struggling Americans. I don’t know what to tell you if you can't see the disconnect there.

The reality is that illegal immigrants consume more in public services than they contribute. So yes, deportation may have an upfront cost, but the long-term return is it worth it.

Your whole argument comes across as emotionally driven and based on surface-level talking points rather than facts.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74895 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:38 am to
It’s a difficult concept for some apparently, but illegal immigration is, in fact, illegal. Doesn’t matter what they are doing. How they got here. How many kids they have. Or how shitty their home country is. Illegal undocumented immigrants have to go.

No one needs to be ‘highly intelligent’ to read the law, look at the economic data, look at the societal impacts, or understand the lost concept of sovereignty. That’s kind of the beauty of common sense — it’s accessible to everyone. Even intellectually dishonest posters like couv1217, theoretically.
Posted by couv1217
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2007
3578 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:48 am to
I can see your point on how the immigrants are taking funds that we could use for the lower income family’s here. Valid. However, do you trust the people in charge to use that money appropriately and in a thought out manner? To be determined.

As far as the jobs go…one example in an air conditioned plant doesn’t prove a point. When you see someone other than a Hispanic guy in 100 degree weather with a shovel tearing off a roof then installing it get back to me.

You aren’t going to pull the guys off the streets at the corner making money by begging to go on these types of jobs.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74895 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:06 am to
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When you see someone other than a Hispanic guy in 100 degree weather with a shovel tearing off a roof then installing it get back to me.


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that was easy.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182598 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:09 am to
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However, do you trust the people in charge to use that money appropriately and in a thought out manner? To be determined.


So your argument has now shifted to "why bother doing anything at all' based on some hypothetical? That is another silly premise often repeated by people like you who only explore the issue on a surface level but want to have an opinion anyway.


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When you see someone other than a Hispanic guy in 100 degree weather with a shovel tearing off a roof then installing it get back to me.



I'm a contractor, and I can show you white crews willing to do roofing jobs today if you'd like. After the hurricanes in Lake Charles, there were white and black roofing crews working. Roofing pays well, just like most trades. Even concrete finishing is solid money. I know local crews of concrete finishers, and one of the best crews I’ve seen is made up entirely of white Mennonites.

Right now, I’m about to close on another flip house next week. Just yesterday, I lined up a full team of legal citizens, including A/C techs, siding installers, carpenters, drywall guys, and painters so the day I close, the work can start immediately. None of them are illegal.

The real problem isn’t that American citizens won’t do these jobs. It’s that it’s cheaper for contractors to hire illegal workers and not because they work for less, (BTW, that is a myth in the construction industry too) but because the government has created a system where paying illegals cash under the table is more financially advantageous than paying employment taxes, workers' comp, benefits, etc., to hire legal workers. Fix some of the regulatory burdens, and the advantage of hiring illegals shrinks. As I said, illegals truly do not work for less than Americans, but that is a myth people like you still repeat despite having zero direct experience wth it. During the recovery from Laura and Delta in Lake Charles, illegals knew the rates roofing was going for and charged the market rate despite not having the same financial burdens of running a business that Americans have. Again, that is a direct wealth transfer, as many of them took that money and sent it home. They also never paid a dime of comp, taxes, etc with it.

So again, your counterpoints don’t address the actual root of the issue. They’re surface-level takes without looking at why this dynamic exists in the first place.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
32092 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:43 am to
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The last report heard regarding total money amount being sent back home per year is estimated to be roughly 45 billion.
Legal and illegals workers in the US sent $64.75 Billion back home to Mexico in remittances.

Since Trump entered office, the Bank of Mexico reports remittances have dropped 12.1% and are declining monthly.
Posted by sledgehammer
SWLA
Member since Oct 2020
7226 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:06 pm to
I left a job in Sulphur today where the Mexican footer diggers worked all night long (8-6) so they had less of a chance getting caught by ICE after what happened at DD. I was talking to the superintendent, and he said the young workers are legal through birthright citizenship, but the older ones stopped going to the mandatory court check-ins during the Biden administration. They didn’t want to spend all day in court and forfeit a day’s wages while Biden had the flood gates open at the border.
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
5092 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:06 pm to
Fuk 'em, they gotta go back
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
32092 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:11 pm to
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every freaking gas station now is owned and staffed by some form of Asian or indians and they bring their family on H1B claiming they cant find qualified workers to staff them. On top of that, many are paid for through grants. shite is insane
They are well versed in "bleeding the beast" and suck every ounce of blood from the USA while they absolutely hate Americans with a passion.
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
73101 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:13 pm to
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Ain't no Americans willing to sleep in the barn and start their day at 4 in the morning.


So the same person magically can't sleep in the barn and start their day at 4 after they become a citizen? If we give the same dude citizenship, that makes him not want to do it anymore?

I spent the last 9 years starting my day at 3 in the morning. Did I miss where I'm not an American?
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:24 pm to
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The real problem isn’t that American citizens won’t do these jobs. It’s that it’s cheaper for contractors to hire illegal workers

Serious no flame question. You're in the biz and see first-hand the above. Likely have for as far back as you can remember. I know i do here in NETx for myriad of manual labor Construction, Agricultural and countless other domestic jobs.

Of those, how many purple haired contractors/ranchers/other have you known who blatantly break law hiring illegals? I don't know of any. Maybe SWLa is different
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:12 pm to
Nm
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 2:13 pm
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
14078 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 3:06 pm to
why do we care?
—-Because…the law?
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