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re: Decisions: Shell Norco or Exxon Refinery
Posted on 3/24/19 at 11:50 pm to Icansee4miles
Posted on 3/24/19 at 11:50 pm to Icansee4miles
Thanks, didn't know that
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Posted on 3/25/19 at 12:17 am to Outlander83
You must fill out a helluvan application. I know some pretty good hands who can’t get a sniff at an interview with either of them.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:46 am to indytiger
Yeah it was pretty shocking to me. I have plenty of friends that have been Operators for years trying to get on with Shell & Exxon with no luck.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:52 am to fightin tigers
Guess we have different views on what management means.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:53 am to Outlander83
Shell Norco is a pretty sweet place to work.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:12 am to Cornholio
Exxon main complex will be either Refinery or Chem Plant, depending on where the needs are. As far as an Operator at Exxon, you will hire in as an assistant operator at Xamount and go through a 4 year apprenticeship program with raises every 6 months. Once you are out of the apprenticeship program you will have potentially have the opportunity to become an operator.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 11:25 am to Outlander83
Not so subtle operator brag
Posted on 3/25/19 at 12:27 pm to Outlander83
I’m almost certain Shell no longer provides health benefits to early retirees, but Exxon still does. Big factor if you plan to retire before becoming eligible for Medicare.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:24 pm to lilyankems
Didn't know the apprenticeship role was that long. So I'm guessing it takes at least 4 years to top out. Does Exxon usually lean towards younger candidates because of this?
Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:38 pm to Outlander83
Not really, the hiring classes are pretty mixed as far as ages. And yes you top out in pay in four years as an assistant operator. Then if you get moved to the board you get a pretty nice bump.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 11:41 pm to zzemme
What’s the salary for Shell Norco?
Posted on 3/26/19 at 6:58 am to Mordecai225
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From what I hear Shell pays more than Exxon and they have big bonuses. I have seen operators clear 14K on the yearly bonus.
Shell Geismar's ICP bonuses (even as an operator) are damn big. Shell Convent isn't going to be as big.
Shell Geismar is non-union, while Shell Convent is union.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 7:12 am to Arkapigdiesel
This board hasn’t had a good operator position thread in like 3 weeks. Overdue
Good luck Op. Don’t count your eggs until they hatch.
Good luck Op. Don’t count your eggs until they hatch.
This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 7:13 am
Posted on 3/26/19 at 7:28 am to Outlander83
This is what I’ve heard from two of my friends at have had a few years in at Exxon.
They all went through the same curve: loved it and were so happy to work for a company as such, however, in the past year or so they are constantly working overtime and call outs due to crappy coworker and projects. You’re just a number, not a real tight knit group (could just be their areas), and issues with managers not addressing safety due to impress higher ups with the least amount of spending.
I passed on an Exxon offer from the plastics plant due to their critiques.
They all went through the same curve: loved it and were so happy to work for a company as such, however, in the past year or so they are constantly working overtime and call outs due to crappy coworker and projects. You’re just a number, not a real tight knit group (could just be their areas), and issues with managers not addressing safety due to impress higher ups with the least amount of spending.
I passed on an Exxon offer from the plastics plant due to their critiques.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 9:48 pm to Rossberg02
I've heard the same thing and Shell Norco is better to work for in this aspect
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:01 pm to fightin tigers
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The fact you didn't ask about upward mobility is telling.
I wonder if this guy is the stereotypical operator?
I’m not shitting on all operators as I’ve seen some really good ones that cared about what they did and why they did it, but I’ve seen a lot more just care about making it to shift change.
I don’t know anything about Exxon but the operators I’ve encountered at shell norco are much closer to the stereotype of an operator than the exceptional ones
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:04 pm to Outlander83
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I've heard that from a couple people. The only thing is the drive to Shell is about 15 mins longer Haha.
15 minutes longer from where? At Exxon, you gotta deal with the 10/12 merge potentially. At Norco (if you’re in BR) you going opposite traffic most commutes.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:04 pm to Oilfieldbiology
The lack of knowledge in industry is telling that he got hired for a job he has no clue about.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:23 pm to Rossberg02
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managers not addressing safety due to impress higher ups with the least amount of spending.
This is why the Exxon plant needs to be shut down. 70+ year old equipment, exposed steam lines, rusted out platforms, leaks, etc. I worked Shell in Alabama, Shintech, and Lion in my plant baw days, and nothing remotely came close to the blatant and criminally negligent plant that Exxon runs.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:28 pm to Kujo
I heard somewhere (could completely be fakes) that Exxon BR is the densest refinery in the US in terms of space due to location. They let increasing capacity by stacking things as opposed to expanding foot print. Is this true?
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