re: "Dealer fees" in connection with a used-vehicle purchase

It ought to be on sticker price - everything - it’s deceptive.

Back in the day, it was like $100, so not big deal.

Then they figured out they could backdoor you, so they did, now people are wising up.

Louisiana has long been the worst for this.
Dealers here used to steal money with the "ad valorum tax" fee scam.

TTL I don't mind paying at the dealership, since you're going to have to pay that regardless. We don't pay other fees though.

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I suppose the point is that they're advertising one price, then adding an additional $X amount on when you get to the dealership pissing people off.

The vehicles that say "no added dealer fees" indicates they're not baiting buyer only to waste their time when they get to the dealership.

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This is true. I have been burnt in the past. Specifically asked if the price posted was the end price, was told yes. Got there and sure enough, they added a low jack system.

Just bought the wife (NO PICS) a new car. I can't tell you how many places i was ready to purchase from and we would get down the buyers order and I would ask about this fee that fee. Most wouldn't budge on it. I Just say to the salesman thanks i am out and move to the next one. finally bought one at a dealer that didn't add that shite.

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$500 dealer fee

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If this was indeed in Louisiana, that is illegal. Dealer doc fee is capped by statute at $425

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If this was indeed in Louisiana, that is illegal. Dealer doc fee is capped by statute at $425

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Probably was $425 then. But knowing that dealership it certainly wouldn't surprise me if they were charging more than what was allowed. Hell the market adjustments were frowned upon by Toyota but dealerships were doing it just because they could.

Went with my son to look at a couple used Tacoma’s in FWB. First one was at a Dodge dealership but had come from up North somewhere and had a badly rusted frame. Then went to the Toyota dealership there. Looked at a couple trucks and found one he wanted to buy. Asked for a buyers order as he had a pre approval from his credit union.

They had a $1250 or so service and reconditioning fee. Asked what that was, they said it was where they brought oil changes etc up to date (don’t think they had) and detailed the truck (if they’d done this they’d done it poorly). Told them that was part of their cost in the vehicle and not our responsibility to pay for that. They said they remove it but just added it back again in a different place.

I can’t imagine how they slip shite like that by people with a functioning brain but they must find plenty of them. I was floored at how slimy the whole thing seemed.

If you have to lie to people to do your job you are not a salesman. You are a criminal and a piece of shite.

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max doc fee of $425 in louisiana

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But people forget there is no minimum fee and it is certainly not mandated by any state. Why people accept this with cars is absurd.

In what other business does the customer pay separately for the seller's necessary paperwork to run their business? If the dealer doesn't fill out the paperwork to sell the car, then there's no sale. Expecting the customer to pay for 'paperwork' the dealer has to complete anyway is bogus and we wouldn't accept this in any other modern transaction.

I don't pay a document fee or a delivery fee when I buy milk at the store or lumber at Home Depot, but every store has the milk & lumber delivered and documents the transaction with a receipt. If Walmart charged you $0.25 delivery fee and $0.15 receipt fee on a $6 gallon of milk, you'd never shop there again.