- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: DEA announces that marijuana will remain a Schedule 1 drug - like LSD & heroin
Posted on 8/11/16 at 12:44 pm to Bmath
Posted on 8/11/16 at 12:44 pm to Bmath
quote:
My buddy had a student worker position there in undergrad. Said they were damn near strip searched every day. Showed me some pictures he took after sneaking in a camera. He wasn't proud of where he had to hide the camera.
I wonder what quality and varieties they grow. Hopefully, they've developed or are using better genetics than when they started in the 60s.
Having started my first grow, I'd love to know more about the plant development on a scientific level. Diagnosing problems is very difficult without any knowledge, and using the internet for resources. I'm getting better, but it's still a lot of guessing, and hoping I'm adding the right nutrient or supplement.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:07 pm to PhilipMarlowe
Most drugs are illegal due to race. Cocaine was used in Coca-Cola but when the negro started drinking it like white people, they made is illegal.
Opium was made illegal due to the Chinese.
Marijuana due to Mexican immigrants
Im pretty sure they are afraid it opens Pandoras Box and research is put back into all illegal drugs. Big Pharma and Alchohol along with the prison industry would fold if these drugs were made legal. But we would be alot better off if they legalized every single one of them.
Opium was made illegal due to the Chinese.
Marijuana due to Mexican immigrants
Im pretty sure they are afraid it opens Pandoras Box and research is put back into all illegal drugs. Big Pharma and Alchohol along with the prison industry would fold if these drugs were made legal. But we would be alot better off if they legalized every single one of them.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:11 pm to Elephino
quote:
You give an anecdotal account with an N of 1 vs a phase III clinical trial that showed no benefit over placebo and worse outcomes vs opioids in cancer pain. BTW, I am a medicinal chemists who also happens to be a professor in a school of pharmacy. I also am part of an article under review demonstrating the effects of a selective CB2 agonist in cytokine secretion during wound healing. But, I have no idea what I am talking about, especially with regards to CBs or the system in which they function.
Pain management is one of the uses that I'm not sold on myself. But pain isn't the only symptom of cancer. It may have an ability for mild pain relief, but not severe. Our brains produce opioids naturally for a reason.
There may be a cannabinoid besides thc or CBD that may be more effective. But modern marijuana breeding has reduced these cannabinoid to the point of ineffectiveness. The prohibition itself has led to bad breeding, that mainly about high thc. And while thc is effective for many things, for pain management, it's not near the top of my list.
And sorry for assuming you were uninformed. For every knowledgeable posters, there's dozens of posters that don't know anything.
But I do believe that anyone who agrees with marijuana being schedule 1, is an absolute dumbass. It's probably the least harmful of mind altering substances.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:14 pm to CCTider
We get so upset about our shitty government, yet we're about to choose from two awful candidates. Go figure.
Everyone in this thread who is a Republican or Democrat can go frick themselves. You're the real problem.
Everyone in this thread who is a Republican or Democrat can go frick themselves. You're the real problem.
This post was edited on 8/11/16 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:20 pm to bayourougebengal
You do realize Phelps smokes and just won his 21st gold medal right? The most decorated Olympian of all time is a pothead
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:24 pm to Elephino
quote:
You don't think if a surgeon accused of malpractice is found to have detectable levels (even below the established minimum) in his blood that it won't be used against him? You can be found to be impaired even if you are below the legal limit.
Is he being tested the day of whatever surgery caused the suit? No, so that's a stupid argument.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:25 pm to CCTider
It doesn't matter if you or I believe it shouldn't be schedule I. It is schedule I according to the rules and policy we have in place that recognize it has no FDA approved medical indication (unlike cocaine, morphine, camphorated tincture of opium, etc). THC and CBD are not the only cannabinoids that have been tested for therapeutic benefit. They number in the thousands (both natural and synthetic). I fully expect a number of agents to emerge over the next 20 years. Unfortunately, drug discovery takes a very long time. To be quite honest, the major argument for the legalization of marijuana is the emergence of so many synthetic alternatives. THC is a partial agonist of the CB1 receptor, which means it can act as an antagonist against a full agonist or even antagonize its own effects (makes it difficult to overdose, right). Some of these synthetic derivatives like the JWH series have full agonist properties at CB1 with higher affinity binding. There have been countless reports of teens/young adults demonstrating signs of overdose on these chemicals (flushing, paranoia, high BP, and racing heart).
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:25 pm to Barf
quote:
What is the motivation for a pharma company to create a synthetic version of THC and then put it through FDA trials? Why go through all that trouble? If it's not because of the schedule I classification, then what is the reason?
Patent pending.....
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:25 pm to 13SaintTiger
quote:
Trump will make America great again by legalizing marijuana
I would vote for him, who cares about weed. I'm tired of hearing about it
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:29 pm to Elephino
quote:
It is schedule I according to the rules and policy we have in place that recognize it has no FDA approved medical indication (unlike cocaine, morphine, camphorated tincture of opium, etc).
Which is absolutely bullshite and any honest, intelligent person knows that. Sure it has no "approved" medical indication, but that doesn't mean it has no medical indication.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:29 pm to Jester
Frequent, random testing? Testing immediately following any negative surgical outcome or accident? What if he's tested a week or two after the surgery in question and found to have subtherapeutic levels in his blood? Would it stand to reason the levels were higher during the surgery? That's what I would argue in court.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:32 pm to Elephino
quote:
It is schedule I according to the rules and policy we have in place that recognize it has no FDA approved medical indication (unlike cocaine, morphine, camphorated tincture of opium, etc)
Then explain to us how dronabinol is schedule III.
quote:
There have been countless reports of teens/young adults demonstrating signs of overdose on these chemicals
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:32 pm to dawgfan24348
He sure is. There is an exception to every rule.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:33 pm to mailman
quote:Literally, millions of people.
who cares about weed
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:33 pm to Jcorye1
quote:This is a majority of what the government does.
Thank you government for protecting us against our selves.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:35 pm to Elephino
quote:
It doesn't matter if you or I believe it shouldn't be schedule I. It is schedule I according to the rules and policy we have in place that recognize it has no FDA approved medical indication (unlike cocaine, morphine, camphorated tincture of opium, etc).
Yet the federal government owns the patent on cannabis. Let's call it what it is, money and politics is why the fda hasn't changed it's scheduling. They have fought research for years, and are only recently opened up and allowed research because of public pressure.
And beyond actually medical benefits. There are decades of public usage that show it's not the dangerous, highly addictive substance the government claimed. But disturbing the status quo ruffles too many feathers. So here we are, in 2016, prohibition still in tact. Even though public opinion of in favor of legalization.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:36 pm to Bmath
quote:
Since 1968 the University of Mississippi has held the only license issued by the DEA to grow marijuana for research
My buddy had a student worker position there in undergrad. Said they were damn near strip searched every day. Showed me some pictures he took after sneaking in a camera. He wasn't proud of where he had to hide the camera.
Its like 200 yards from frat row and right next to a popular apartment complex. Once a year they burn off old crops and you can smell it in that apt. complex parking lot.
Sooo many rumors and stories throughout the years about people getting their hands on some of it, but I never saw any of it...and I was around pot dealers a fair amount.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:39 pm to Barf
Schedule III means less potential for abuse over those in schedule I or II. As discussed marijuana is schedule I primarily because it has no approved medical use and is still one of the most abused drugs in existence. None of that means it's lethal or dangerous.
quote:
There have been countless reports of teens/young adults demonstrating signs of overdose on these chemicals
Did I touch on a sensitive subject for you? A personal experience you want to discuss?
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:39 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:
The GOP needs to understand that if they want to survive, they've got to let the anti-marijuana and anti-gay marriage shite go. People under 35 who (did) identify as republican don't agree with those archaic stances. If they want to push forward their important fiscally conservative agenda, they need to forget the social arguments holding them back.
God if this could only happen sooner. It would make the Dems go absolutely crazy.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 1:42 pm to Elephino
The Hypocrisy is that the DEA schedules the Drug as having no medicinal benefits. Yet the US government has issued a patent on the medicinal benefits. So US government, which one is it?
This alone should nullify Schedule I.
LINK
quote:
US Patent 6,630,507 Cannabinoids as Antioxidants and Neuroprotectants
quote:
"Cannabinoids have been found to have antioxidant properties, unrelated to NMDA receptor antagonism. This new found property makes cannabinoids useful in the treatment and prophylaxis of wide variety of oxidation associated diseases, such as ischemic, age-related, inflammatory and autoimmune diseases. The cannabinoids are found to have particular application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke and trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease and HIV dementia. Nonpsychoactive cannabinoids, such as cannabidoil, are particularly advantageous to use because they avoid toxicity that is encountered with psychoactive cannabinoids at high doses useful in the method of the present invention."...
quote:
The U.S. Patent Office issued patent #6630507 to the U.S.Health and Human Services filed on 2/2/2001. The patent lists the use of certain cannabinoids found within the cannabis sativa plant as useful in certain neurodegenerative diseases such as Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, and HIV dementia. Since cannabis sativa (marijuana) contains compounds recognized and endorsed by an agency of the U.S. government- Why is it that marijuana remains on the Federal Schedule One list of drugs? The issuance of patent #6630507 is a direct contradiction of the governments own definition for classification of a Schedule 1 drug.
This alone should nullify Schedule I.
LINK
Popular
Back to top



1






