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re: Dayton, OH bar mass shooting - 10 dead, 27 wounded

Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:22 pm to
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
18734 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:22 pm to
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bullied at the high school


Seems to be a common occurrence with these shooters.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73271 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:22 pm to
So this is the sorry sack of shite that the media will point to as an example of white men in this country in 2019. Fantastic
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:23 pm to
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So this is the sorry sack of shite that the media will point to as an example of white men in this country in 2019. Fantastic


They sure as shite will.

You get an upvote for that.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73271 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:24 pm to
I don’t want your upvotes
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
70775 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:24 pm to
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These are the rumors but My local friends and family are saying potentially racial motivation. Sister was at club with black boyfriend.




So this guy shot up a bar because his sister was with a black guy?
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9603 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:24 pm to
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Is anyone seeing that one of the victims was the sister of the perpetrator


I just read this. Has anything else come up on this like problems between them and possible reason this location was chosen by the murderer.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:25 pm to
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I don’t want your upvotes


It was only one. Not plural.
Posted by The Truth 34
Chavez Ravine
Member since May 2010
41616 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:25 pm to
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So this is the sorry sack of shite that the media will point to as an example of white men in this country in 2019.


no kidding. this soy boy ain't a representation of the true white baws in this country.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73213 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:27 pm to
Here’s the fundamental problem with gun control in America

It’s very very likely that the types of laws that would materially reduce gun violence and mass shootings (complete ban on most firearms, very strict handgun regulations compete with licensing, storage laws, etc) are in violation of the second amendment.

The types of laws that wouldn’t really do much (Magazine Regs, universal checks) are probably constitutional

What this means is that before you even begin to try to enact effective gun laws, you need to repeal the 2nd amendment

Need 2/3 of congress or 2/3 of state legislatures to propose the amendment to repeal the 2nd

Need 3/4 of state legislatures or 3/4 of delegates at state conventions to ratify the new amendment


45 states have the right to bear arms in their own state constitutions

The idea that 38 states will vote to ratify an amendment abolishing the 2nd amendment is absurd.

I can think of 8-10 states max that would go along with it.


Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53115 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:29 pm to
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Case and point. Chicago had two mass shootings since Dayton yesterday. You idiots are counting those incidents in the 'weapons used' argument.

Which mass shooting aside from Vegas couldn't have been accomplished with pistols? Shooting up a bar or a Walmart doesn't exactly require a rifle.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26293 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:30 pm to
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Is anyone seeing that one of the victims was the sister of the perpetrator

Yes, I read that he killed his sister and her boyfriend first in a car somewhere. I can't imagine having your son do this and finding out that he killed your daughter too. Very sad.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49000 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:31 pm to
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Which mass shooting aside from Vegas couldn't have been accomplished with pistols? Shooting up a bar or a Walmart doesn't exactly require a rifle

Stick to facts and stop the coulda shoulda bullshite. You coulda been all state if coach put you in the game.
Posted by MobileLegend5
Member since Jun 2019
32 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:31 pm to
Gun control laws or regulations do not mean repealing the second amendment. Stop making “slippery slope” arguments. You should have learned in high school that that is a juvenile and uneducated logical fallacy.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:31 pm to
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Which mass shooting aside from Vegas couldn't have been accomplished with pistols? Shooting up a bar or a Walmart doesn't exactly require a rifle.





In 1991 the mass shooting at luby's cafeteria in Texas, was I think done with a pistol. He killed over 20 people.
This post was edited on 8/4/19 at 1:34 pm
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
146457 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:32 pm to
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quote:

These are the rumors but My local friends and family are saying potentially racial motivation. Sister was at club with black boyfriend.

So this guy shot up a bar because his sister was with a black guy?

why... after seeing the pic of bro & sis a page or so back... did I think 'she was dating a black guy and he wasn't exactly a fan of that'?
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53115 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:33 pm to
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In 1991 the mass shooting at luby's cafeteria in Texas, was I think done with a pistol. He killed over 20 people

The Virginia Tech shooter used pistols too. He killed 33.
This post was edited on 8/4/19 at 1:35 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73213 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:33 pm to
Do you lack reading comprehension?

I specifically said there are gun laws that do not violate the 2nd amendment.

You completely missed the point of my post.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:33 pm to
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Gun control laws or regulations do not mean repealing the second amendment.

What part of “shall not be infringed” is open to interpretation for you?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73271 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:34 pm to
Have an upvote. Just one.
Posted by Manlaw35
Member since Jan 2013
1328 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:35 pm to
Authorities have now named the 9 deceased victims. Authorities have now named the 9 deceased victims. In addition to Megan Betts, they are Lois Oglesby, black female, 27; Saeed Saleh, 38, black male; Logan Turner, white male, 30; Nicholas Cummer, white male, 25; Thomas McNichols, black male, 25; Beatrice Warren Curtis, black female, 36; Monica Brickhouse, black female, 39; and Derrick Fudge, black male, 57.

Doesn't appear racially motivated. He killed several white people besides his sister.
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