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re: Dayton, OH bar mass shooting - 10 dead, 27 wounded

Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:53 pm to
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Let's say we ban "assault style" rifles and now these types of people who will commit this terrible act no longer have access to got Wal-Mart or Academy to buy the AR (let's pretend private sales don't happen as well), what would prevent them from buying a Glock and an extended magazine to commit the same exact crime? 

A guy in a confined space like a bar could kill just as many people with 2 Glock 17s and some extra mags.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:54 pm to
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Luckily I bought mine in FDE, so it's good.

I think I bought mine before there were background checks
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:54 pm to
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What about a large truck bearing down on a crowd of people? What about a homemade bomb?

Are both of those not capable of doing as much or more damage than a rifle? And likely in a shorter period of time.



^Look at how lazy this is.

Trucks and bombs are almost unheard of in the US, yet they're used in support of guns. It's absurd. It truly is.

Find a better argument. Plenty of them exist.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33723 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:54 pm to
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Luckily I bought mine in FDE, so it's good.


I've heard the FDE ones are more accurate. Lol
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:55 pm to
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A guy in a confined space like a bar could kill just as many people with 2 Glock 17s and some extra mags.


Would be easier to sneak in as well.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:55 pm to
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Most hunting rifles are bolt action which wouldn’t be near as efficient for what these whackos want to accomplish. There are semi auto deer rifles but they would probably be included in any ban of semi automatic rifles.


Every “assault weapons” ban proposed in congress has exempted semi auto hunting rifles

It’s a joke.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:57 pm to
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I think I bought mine before there were background checks


Back when they were friendly rifles?
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
71121 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:57 pm to
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Trucks and bombs are almost unheard of in the US


When the US bans all these guns like its going on in Europe. Crazies will move on to knife attacks, running people over w/ trucks and making more bombs. Then what will you do next, ban trucks?

Don't think taking away all the guns solves anything. Point is that evil people will find a way to kill by any means necessary.
This post was edited on 8/4/19 at 1:02 pm
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:57 pm to
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Would be easier to sneak in as well.

The only recent mass shooting that I can think of that couldn't have been accomplished with pistols would be the Vegas one.

He could have certainly brought a deer rifle and a scope up there and a bunch of mags and done plenty of damage though.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:58 pm to
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I've heard the FDE ones are more accurate. Lol


Shhh or they will come after those too.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53519 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:59 pm to
What's FDE?
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:00 pm to
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^Look at how lazy this is. Trucks and bombs are almost unheard of in the US, yet they're used in support of guns. It's absurd. It truly is. Find a better argument. Plenty of them exist.


I don’t think it’s a lazy argument I think that poster is trying to justify that these murdered will find a way to kill enough people by any means necessary and if we were to ban assault weapons it wouldn’t be out of the realm to think a truck or bomb would be used.

The trucks used in Barcelona and Nice and the bomb in England at the concert had more casualties than all of our mass shootings here in the states within a 10 yr period maybe even longer. And I’m not talking about the hood deaths that are lumped into the horrendous senseless shootings with assault rifles.
This post was edited on 8/4/19 at 1:02 pm
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:00 pm to
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He could have certainly brought a deer rifle and a scope up there and a bunch of mags and done plenty of damage though.



Good point.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:01 pm to
Flat Dark Earth, fancy for light brown or tan.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34401 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:02 pm to
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A guy in a confined space like a bar could kill just as many people with 2 Glock 17s and some extra mags.
Very true. Movie theaters, school classrooms, churches services, concerts, football games, etc. Anyone descent with a gun could probably drop 3-5 people at point blank range before really getting started.
This post was edited on 8/4/19 at 1:03 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:02 pm to
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When the US bans all these guns like its going on in Europe. Crazies will move on to knife attacks, running people over w/ trucks and making more bombs. Then what will you do next, ban trucks?



I'm not taking your guns in the first place, but resorting to these stupid arguments isn't helping your side one bit.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53519 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:03 pm to
Gotcha. Mine is probably 25 years old and they didn't have all the fancy ones back then.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
51921 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:04 pm to
Hail already put up the best argument a couple of pages back
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79910 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:05 pm to
What's the story on this Dayton shooting?
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68376 posts
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:05 pm to
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I'm not taking your guns in the first place, but resorting to these stupid arguments isn't helping your side one bit.


Why are they stupid? Because they’re real world proof refuting your argument?

Why would America be different than Europe? It’s about as close of a 1 to 1 comparison as you will find.
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