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re: Data shows barely an epidemic had IL, MA, MI, NJ, NY, PA GOV not sent sick to nursing home
Posted on 7/7/20 at 10:02 am to tiger91
Posted on 7/7/20 at 10:02 am to tiger91
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I wish I knew what the answer was to this whole nursing home thing in general.
What did the elderly do before nursing homes?
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Posted on 7/7/20 at 10:03 am to thadcastle
They probably did that in hopes to kill older, conservative voters.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 10:05 am to OleWar
They stayed home & didn’t get medical care & died
A family member took care of them if they didn’t work or could afford to stop working
They were put into institutions or group homes (not everyone in a nursing home is old)
A family member took care of them if they didn’t work or could afford to stop working
They were put into institutions or group homes (not everyone in a nursing home is old)
Posted on 7/7/20 at 10:05 am to thadcastle
Those states are all run by fricking idiots.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 10:08 am to oVo
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Dems did it to kill the old vote
Nah, surely those aren't all dem governors...
Posted on 7/7/20 at 10:18 am to thadcastle
One of the problems with the "governors sent them back to the nursing home" narrative is that nursing home residents have a right to go back to the nursing home rather than being discharged somewhere else. Its a federal law, specifically 42 CFR 483.12. That set of rules is set up so as to make it impossible for a nursing home to refuse to accept a patient coming back from the hospital or to even discharge a patient for any reason, even for not paying for their stay. If you are a nursing home, once you accept a resident, it is almost impossible to discharge them involuntarily.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 10:37 am to LSUJML
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I think a good part of the issue is nursing homes with double occupancy rooms
That is 100% reckless
staff changing bed pans and soiled sheets going from room to room are the problem, not the fact there's another person across the room sleeping.
every nursing home i've been in...keeping residents and rooms clean and careful adherence to proper hygiene by the staff are things i wouldn't rate highly.
This post was edited on 7/7/20 at 10:42 am
Posted on 7/7/20 at 11:22 am to LSUJML
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Are you saying it was ok to send a Covid positive resident back into a shared room?
No, just in general
Posted on 7/7/20 at 11:26 am to thadcastle
But those are all smart Yankee Dems who are so
Much better than all of us and who know best
Much better than all of us and who know best
Posted on 7/7/20 at 11:36 am to Jim Rockford
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What explains the current explosion, then. I don't disagree with the premise that sending them back to nursing homes made things a lot worse, but to say it would otherwise have been barely and epidemic...
Current explosion in deaths?
Posted on 7/7/20 at 11:37 am to VADawg
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It's not "poor choices". This was done intentionally by dem governors to kill off likely Trump voters.
The fact that people actually believe this is just sad. For the record, the Governor of Massachusetts is a Republican, and overall he's actually done a really great job dealing with this pandemic. Hence why MA is in Phase III and LA is not.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 11:43 am to Jim Rockford
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What explains the current explosion, then
There is a current explosion in testing. That's it.
This isn't a second wave, there won't be a second wave, and we will be mostly back to normal by fall.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 11:51 am to LegendInMyMind
Never an epidemic
Posted on 7/7/20 at 11:55 am to LSUJML
quote:Exactly. Back when there were no nursing homes, very few housewives worked, they were able to stay home and raise kids & care for their elderly.
They stayed home & didn’t get medical care & died
A family member took care of them if they didn’t work or could afford to stop working
They were put into institutions or group homes (not everyone in a nursing home is old)
Hell, my great-grandparents were literally shuffled around every few months to their 12 kids homes. I distinctly remember my grandparents getting my great-grandmother 1 month a year and then she got shuffled to the next house - every kid got their share of caring for the old folks back then.
People no longer have a huge # of kids these days and ton of wives are in the work force and can't care for anyone in the home.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 11:57 am to LSUJML
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Are you saying it was ok to send a Covid positive resident back into a shared room?
They didn't. If a resident was returned to the facility and had not been negative for 14 days, they were placed in an isolation wing/unit.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 12:12 pm to thadcastle
It’s 2020 man they can put up climate controlled field hospitals anywhere they need to in a complete emergency. Ice hockey rinks, roller skating rinks, ..,,,etc...It’s sad but it’s pure TDS that has caused this “chaos mode”.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 12:38 pm to thadcastle
These states need a formal investigation once it's all over.
This just looks way too suspect.
This just looks way too suspect.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 12:41 pm to AbitaFan08
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Massachusetts ......great job
I believe their death rate is over 1,000/ million.
While Florida is under 100.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 12:49 pm to Privateer 2007
It was also one of the hardest hit states in the country, behind only New York, I believe. So your numbers aren't really indicative of the work that has been done here to mitigate the damage.
And despite the higher numbers, MA took a slow and methodical approach to opening back up and the vast majority of residents wore masks, stayed home, etc. And now we're in Phase 3 with numbers still on the decline. Not everything that was done was perfect, but honestly I commend Governor Baker's work through this.
And despite the higher numbers, MA took a slow and methodical approach to opening back up and the vast majority of residents wore masks, stayed home, etc. And now we're in Phase 3 with numbers still on the decline. Not everything that was done was perfect, but honestly I commend Governor Baker's work through this.
This post was edited on 7/7/20 at 12:54 pm
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