re: Daily Mail: Noah’s Ark resting place 100% confirmed

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How can someone literally believe the story of Noah's Ark is true?

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Because they were sadly indoctrinated to believe unreasonable things. It happens. It's a cycle.

There is a reason they start the process at a time where toddlers/kids will believe anything they are told.

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Because they were sadly indoctrinated to believe unreasonable things. It happens. It's a cycle.

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So you were there back then to say it didn't happen?

I think the story of Noah’s arc is based on a myth much much older than the biblical geneology suggests. I highly doubt that there is a boat on Mt. Ararat, but I do believe that there were some truly massive floods that likely killed off 80%+ of the human population at the time as well as destroyed multiple advanced seafaring agricultural civilizations. These floods were likely triggered by a comet strike on the North American ice sheet, which triggered rapid melting of the ice sheet as well as a nuclear winter and a firestorm over North America.

The melting ice raised mean sea levels dramatically, creating Seas out of large areas that used to be fertile river valleys and inundating the continental shelves which were once exposed coastal plains. The Mediterranean, Red, Black, Caribbean, South China, Baltic, Bering, East China, Java, Okhotsk, and Japanese Seas as well as the Persian Gulf and Gulf of America would have all gone from dry land to open ocean extremely rapidly. It is possible that the entire Persian Gulf could have been filled in a month. We’re talking millions of square miles disappearing. Imagine if Texas disappeared overnight. Now imagine if 20 Texas’s all over the globe disappeared between now and Halloween. In North America, the collapse of the ice sheet formed the Great Lakes as well as massive canyons and gorges formed by tremendous floods.

These three factors combined to kill off the megafauna and collapse virtually any and every urban civilization on the planet. Those that survived the firestorm, starved or froze to death during the nuclear winter. Those who survived the nuclear winter drowned in the floods. Those who survived floods of such magnitude likely found primitive hunter-gatherers living inland and became the teachers of civilization. We see these myths in countless cultures.

So, in short, I subscribe to the theory that there was a massive cataclysm at the end of the last ice age which included large floods that did not cover the earth but did cover nearly everywhere ice age humans actually lived with any population density. The survivors (whether they escaped floods on boats or fires by burrowing underground) created oral traditions to preserve the memory of the cataclysm as they attempted to rebuild the civilizations that were destroyed. The legend of Noah’s Ark is just one example.

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I just point out that your existence contributes nothing to anyone and the world would be a better place had you never existed. You serve no useful purposes and have zero redeeming qualities.

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That’s pretty harsh.

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As if his life has all that much meaning beyond his immediate circle. You know, like 99.9% of the world's population for the entirety of human history.

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I honestly find it easier to fathom that, than that the world and every truly remarkable piece of it and our universe just appeared.

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There is far too much order and design in the universe for it to all be random happenstance.

That’s why this whole debate over whatever this thing is in Turkey is interesting from academic standpoint, but doesn’t determine my worldview. If it’s not the actual Noah’s Ark, oh well. If it is, cool. Unlike others in this thread it change anything to me.

The only evidence I need is to look out my window and see something like a tree, a bird, or even a cloud. Or simply look up at night and see the stars. Creation itself proclaims its creator.

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That’s why this whole debate over whatever this thing is in Turkey is interesting from academic standpoint

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bad faith science isn't interesting and certainly not from an academic standpoint

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has shown time and time again to be accurate and has passed the test of time for over 2,000

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How are you defining accurate?

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I honestly find it easier to fathom that, than that the world and every truly remarkable piece of it and our universe just appeared.

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Where did this even come from?