re: Dad Writes Gag Check to Son's Elementary School Using Common Core Math

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Dad Writes Gag Check to Son's Elementary School Using Common Core Math

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This is almost as pathetic as the dad who wrote the letter on his kid's assignment bragging about his "Bachelor of Science in Electronics Engineering".

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Most people don't like CC because it's just another step toward the de localization of education, not because it shows kids a different way to learn.

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And if this is a big issue, I'm not sure how anyone in Louisiana ought to hold it.

shite...we're in the low 40's in nearly every meaningful educational category...what exactly are we doing here that's so precious that keeping control over it is worth anything other than the bragging rights of control? Who wants control over a dumpster fire? What's the worry...it's going to get worse?

I could understand this point of view if we lived in a state that was routinely even in the top HALF, but we're not.

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shite...we're in the low 40's in nearly every meaningful educational category...what exactly are we doing here that's so precious that keeping control over it is worth anything other than the bragging rights of control? Who wants control over a dumpster fire? What's the worry...it's going to get worse

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Do you even have kids? I want parents and teachers to have the control, not the feds. At least with local school boards, parents can envoke change. I send my kids to a private school, and when I dont like something, I can appeal to an advisory board and the principle, or join the parent council and my voice is heard. They can adapt methods at any time based on what's working and what is not working for the kids. They are free to innovate and try new things. Because of this, they have fantastic outcomes. My school is using CC methods in conjunction with traditional methods and I have no issue with that, my concern is all about the control, and what happens when the feds aren't getting the outomes they desire.

What do you do as a parent when the school standards, cirriculum, and teaching methods are all dictated by the federal government, cause that is where this ride ends.

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shite...we're in the low 40's in nearly every meaningful educational category...what exactly are we doing here that's so precious that keeping control over it is worth anything other than the bragging rights of control? Who wants control over a dumpster fire? What's the worry...it's going to get worse?

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It isn't like they are trying to fix a problem we don't have, we need to get our students better at math. Common Core may be the answer may not, but if our folks get any worse it would be scary.

I'm willing to bet that I'm better at math than you, but that's not the topic of this thread.
But if you want to play that game,
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Joseph G. Rosenstein, a distinguished professor of mathematics at Rutgers University, is mightily disappointed in the Common Core math standards.

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He has a PhD, so why should he listen to you?
*Did I do that right?*

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Do you even have kids?

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Do you read threads in which you post? I've stated no less than three times in this thread that I have an 8th grader and a 3rd grader.

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I want parents and teachers to have the control, not the feds.

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This only concerns me if the feds are doing a bad job while the parents are doing a good one. In our case, there is ZERO to indicate that Louisiana is capable in any meaningful way of getting this done right. Why? The answer, I'm confident, is myriad...but somewhere in there is CERTAINLY involvement by groups who need less of it.

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At least with local school boards, parents can envoke change.

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Like how they're trying to invoke Intelligent Design into the classroom? Pass.

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I send my kids to a private school, and when I dont like something, I can appeal to an advisory board and the principle, or join the parent council and my voice is heard. They can adapt methods at any time based on what's working and what is not working for the kids. They are free to innovate and try new things. Because of this, they have fantastic outcomes. My school is using CC methods in conjunction with traditional methods and I have no issue with that, my concern is all about the control, and what happens when the feds aren't getting the outomes they desire.

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Seems you've got the handle on your situation...why get involved in the situation of others? Public school education in LA is abysmal...and you're advocating LESS outside intervention? There is nothing to indicate LA is capable of evening admitting there's a problem, let alone fixing it if they did. Those are not the folks I want to be any part of a solution.

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What do you do as a parent when the school standards, cirriculum, and teaching methods are all dictated by the federal government, cause that is where this ride ends.

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First...and I know this is odd in 2015...I'd wait until I felt there was an actual issue before running to social media to bitch about the perils of such and such long before such perils actually occurred.

Secondly...you make it sound like the current model is one in which parents can nearly instantaneously invoke change. That's silly.

In the end, and again...this will not make many happy...I'm responsible for the education of my children. Yes...they attend school, but they do not do so in a damn vacuum. I'm aware of their curriculum, what they're being tested on, etc. I am free to add to and tweak any and all of those things as I see fit. This has happened from the time they were in kindergarten and will continue to do so.

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We built the Bomb and landed on the moon without Common Core.

Whatever has caused us to fall behind, it isn't the old way of teaching math.

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We built the Bomb and landed on the moon by doing things we hadn't done before.

Whatever will bring our nation into the next chapter of greatness, it won't be the old way of doing things.

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Most people don't like CC because it's just another step toward the de localization of education,

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Too damn bad. Localization of the education has produced terrible results. Change is needed.

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We built the Bomb and landed on the moon without Common Core.

Whatever has caused us to fall behind, it isn't the old way of teaching math.

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We built the bomb and landed on the moon on the backs of the German scientists and academics of the 1940s. If this is your metric, we should do what the Germans were doing in STEM education around 1940 or so...

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If you understand the common core method, you can quickly solve addition and multiplication problems in your head without needing paper or a calculator. On top of that, it's teaching you the actual mechanics versus a memorization method which is why our country is so lacking when it comes to STEM knowledge.

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It is a myth that our country is lacking in STEM knowledge. The poors and trashy people are lacking and they are a growing part of our country.

If you back out trashy inner cities, statistics like lack of STEM knowledge and gun violence all but disappear.