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re: Dad makes son play outside after playing PS4 all day

Posted on 4/8/18 at 11:03 am to
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 4/8/18 at 11:03 am to
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Kids now feel like it's a punishment to go outside.


Well when parents treat it like a punishment...
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/8/18 at 11:07 am to
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Our Xbox is available to our kiddos on weekends only, and they have to "check it out" just like a library book.

We're about to do the same, weekend only. Well, not the check out part, that's a bit odd lol.

They play every day when they get home from school, but they only get 20 minutes, then we go outside, weather permitting.

But they're so obsessed in that it's literally all they talk about, they whine every time they have to stop, so it's just about to go away during the school week.

This post was edited on 4/8/18 at 11:08 am
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67009 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 11:12 am to
You have to understand that when you were growing up, your clique had some set meetup spot, right? Before cell phones, every clique had them. Maybe it was someone’s house, a gas station parking lot, the food court in the mall, a record store or what have you. You needed a set meetup spot because ofherwise, once you left the house, it was impossible for your friends to find each other.

For your kids, that x-box is that meetup spot. They go online and that’s where their friends are waiting for them. Rather than waiting to browse the stores at the mall or play a pickup game of pinecone and stick baseball, they’re forming teams and playing call of duty or the latest rpg.

It’s the exact same thing.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66405 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 11:13 am to
Or how about just get rid of the XBOX all together if it's that big of a deal?
Posted by islandtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
1787 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 11:20 am to
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Top 30 lessons not passed on


We have taught our now grown children (all girls) all of those, except 2, 11, 17, and 23. Sure glad we never had to fight over excessive video game use.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 11:21 am to
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Heaven forbid kids do what they enjoy.



Kids lack self control. Preventing them from doing everything they enjoy is literally a top five rule of parenting.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 11:25 am to
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For your kids, that x-box is that meetup spot. They go online and that’s where their friends are waiting for them. Rather than waiting to browse the stores at the mall or play a pickup game of pinecone and stick baseball, they’re forming teams and playing call of duty or the latest rpg.

It’s the exact same thing.


Actually, it's profoundly different and it's showing.

For one. As you pointed out earlier. There are literally millions of people out there they can play with.

The direct result I've personally seen from this in dealing with younger people is spectacular narcissism. Now, most people confuse narcissism with selfishness.

But what I'm talking about is that tons of these people seem to have NEVER learned their role in the reactions they get from people. And why would they?

When I was young, if I said shite that pissed off all my friends, there weren't 30 other kids waiting to play with me. I learned normal socialization. Because I was face to face with them, I learned what immediate social feedback looks like on the faces of other humans. And, my pool of humans to interact with was limited.

Online completely obliterates that imperative. And, I see it in young people at work.

Used to be, if you had an a-hole at work, even he kinda knew he was an a-hole. He knew why people didn't like him. He just didn't give a frick.

I deal with people now who genuinely have no fricking idea how it came to be that NO ONE in the organization can stand them. It's a truly amazing conversation to have with someone.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36588 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 11:28 am to
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What does a kid who can’t swim look like?


Use to work at a pool, the worst swimmers tended to have obese parents. This was a better indicator than race in my experience
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67009 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 11:32 am to
That’s actually a very good point. Relative anonymity and a lack of proximity allows for trash talking that has no edge limit. In face to face trash talking, you find out where the line is when the batter steps out of the batter’s box and whip’s your arse. There’s no threat of physical confrontation on the internet (unless they agree to meet at Sonic), so they just say the exgiest things they can think of. Since the holocaust is basically the worst thing ever, it makes holocausd jokes and ripping on Jews the funniest, edgiest, trollingest thing they can do.

The real world doesn’t have anonymity. The real world has proximity. By not spending enough time interacting face to face, they’re not learning those social skills. They’re not learning where those boundaries are or should be.

We’re just creating a generation of lazy, entitled, edgy f$&ks.
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 4/8/18 at 11:43 am to
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In face to face trash talking, you find out where the line is when the batter steps out of the batter’s box and whip’s your arse. There’s no threat of physical confrontation on the internet


quote:

We’re just creating a generation of lazy, entitled, edgy f$&ks.


So exactly what you are doing right now
This post was edited on 4/8/18 at 11:44 am
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 12:04 pm to
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So exactly what you are doing right now

Yes. It is. THAT is the point.

We all can act that way in the anonymity of online.

HOWEVER.

The point is that online now affords one the ability to grow up basically NEVER paying the price for not learning those social skills.

I can come online and be a total tick and alienate everyone but I still crave human face to face interaction because I grew up with that as my primary source of human interaction.

A lot of people grow up perfectly satisfied to have their online persona and their IRL persona be effectively one in the same. Honestly, it's not even accurate to say they're "satisfied" with it.

They just never learned any other way.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 12:07 pm to
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That’s actually a very good point. Relative anonymity and a lack of proximity allows for trash talking that has no edge limit. In face to face trash talking, you find out where the line is when the batter steps out of the batter’s box and whip’s your arse. There’s no threat of physical confrontation on the internet (unless they agree to meet at Sonic), so they just say the exgiest things they can think of. Since the holocaust is basically the worst thing ever, it makes holocausd jokes and ripping on Jews the funniest, edgiest, trollingest thing they can do.



Even insults lose their real meaning in the online world.

IRL, an insult is likely related to the target. "Hey, you're fat" is because, well, the person is fat. And, you see how that person reacts.........instantly. As a kid, you grow up learning what human reactions look like if you actually deal with humans.

Now, insults are just pulled from a grab bag. Hell, that dude in the game room you're calling a fig might not even be a dude. He might just be some chick with a dude's handle online.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29473 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 12:11 pm to
Your d-bags took this way out of proportion. Checking out means that we keep in our closet so they can only play it when they earn it.


Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58039 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 12:30 pm to
More like "dad kicks son off PS4 and makes him go outside b/c he wants to sit his lazy arse down and watch TV for the next 6 hours while he jerks it to internet porn".
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51895 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 1:13 pm to
To me, it seems kinda simple:

It is stupid and arbitrary to try to stop and limit video game playing, and doing so can hurt more than help.

It’s seems so much more healthier to not ban or control video games, but to require at least one hobby.

It could be anything the kid is interested in, from organized sports, Scouting, or even a god damned Pokémon card tournament.

Anything that takes them out of the bubble of their own living room and out of the house. Bonus points for having a constructive purpose/social elements.

But you can’t just take kids out of the electronic world, just because it’s so different from how you grew up. Today’s social scene (and at times professional) is so reliant on it that you are crippling him trying to fit the square peg of your childhood in a round hole. Not to meation fostering unesscessary resentment.
This post was edited on 4/8/18 at 2:02 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110701 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 2:00 pm to
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You have to understand that when you were growing up, your clique had some set meetup spot, right? Before cell phones, every clique had them. Maybe it was someone’s house, a gas station parking lot, the food court in the mall, a record store or what have you. You needed a set meetup spot because ofherwise, once you left the house, it was impossible for your friends to find each other.

For your kids, that x-box is that meetup spot. They go online and that’s where their friends are waiting for them. Rather than waiting to browse the stores at the mall or play a pickup game of pinecone and stick baseball, they’re forming teams and playing call of duty or the latest rpg.

It’s the exact same thing.
I hear what you're saying... but my kids are 6 lol.

Limiting time is easy because they'll do whatever I say at this age. But it just needs to be limited probably even more so they stay balanced.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110701 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 2:00 pm to
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Or how about just get rid of the XBOX all together if it's that big of a deal?
Or just limit it to weekends.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47463 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 2:20 pm to
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Our Xbox is available to our kiddos on weekends only, and they have to "check it out" just like a library book.

It is also given to them with limited time limit which is earned with good behavior during the week.

One of your kids is destined for the local sex offender registry. And it'll be because of shite like this.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

quote:

Our Xbox is available to our kiddos on weekends only, and they have to "check it out" just like a library book.

It is also given to them with limited time limit which is earned with good behavior during the week.


One of your kids is destined for the local sex offender registry. And it'll be because of shite like this.


Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47463 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 2:22 pm to
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Your d-bags took this way out of proportion. Checking out means that we keep in our closet so they can only play it when they earn it.



My son knows I'll whip his narrow arse if he plays when he's not supposed to.

Eta: he just cheated to beat me in Horse. Do yall let your kids do shite like trick shots behind the goal, for example? Little fricker.
This post was edited on 4/8/18 at 2:24 pm
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