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re: Cyclists think it's ok to ride on the interstate
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:17 pm to LegendInMyMind
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:17 pm to LegendInMyMind
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They are rare. But, with the increasing movement to make it legal to ride any and everywhere, I suspect they will become more common
I don't expect more Interstate to be opened to bikes. As for all the other places most are already legal and more bikes on the road may actually reduce collisions as drivers become more used to seeing them.
Take NYC for example, that city is a free for all that includes all vehicles. Despite the huge number of cyclists and blatant disregard for the rules of the road (which cars/trucks/pedestrians also pretend don't exist), there were still only 10 cycling deaths last year. While it may seem like a lot the number of bikes on the road is amazing. The ubiquity of cheap rechargeable LED lights helps with visibility. I use them front and rear 24hrs a day. The oft scoffed at bright colored "spandex" clothing is there for a reason too.
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Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:21 pm to MojoGuyPan
I've drafted a big rig or 2 in my day 
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:23 pm to MLCLyons
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except for the fact it's illegal to ride a bike on a side walk
I know this is true, but...why? Wouldn't it be much safer for everyone involved if they could ride on the sidewalks? We could rename them as "sidepaths" or something like that?
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:24 pm to Crusty
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Wouldn't it be much safer for everyone involved if they could ride on the sidewalks?
No.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:25 pm to MightyYat
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The ONLY OPTION in the whole wide world? I don't understand. Doesn't Baton Rouge have a velodrome open from sunrise to sunset everyday? I'll never understand how you morons think that ride is worth risking your life over
You aren't allowed to ride a road bike on a velodrome. You'd have to have a track bike.
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I don’t have a problem with cyclists on river road, but 4 wide is asinine.
I don't have a problem with 4 wide unless they're reaching into the opposite lane. It's safer sometimes to ride a few wide so people don't attempt to squeeze by and pass without having the other lane clear. That'll get you clipped by a mirror.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:27 pm to Obtuse1
Obviously I am not a cyclist so can you explain why it wouldn't be safer for both motorists and cyclists?
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:30 pm to Crusty
As far as cyclists riding on sidewalks, no it'd be way too dangerous for pedestrians. What you're talking about is a shared use path, and they're a little better. They're fine for someone on a cruiser or something, but still not sufficient for someone riding a road bike for exercise. A road cyclist is hitting 18-25mph, which is way way too fast to be interacting with pedestrians.
ETA: it'd be so beneficial to everyone if there were more bike lanes around BR. Cyclists have a place away from pedestrians, and the only thing motorists would have to watch for is opening their doors and check before turning. Obviously wouldn't get rid of texters swerving into you but that's a separate issue.
ETA: it'd be so beneficial to everyone if there were more bike lanes around BR. Cyclists have a place away from pedestrians, and the only thing motorists would have to watch for is opening their doors and check before turning. Obviously wouldn't get rid of texters swerving into you but that's a separate issue.
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:40 pm to CHSTigersFan
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Guy died in SW Missouri a couple of weeks ago when he was riding at night on the interstate. Fed-Ex Truck ran his arse over!
That is sad, but cycling on the interstate is legal in Missouri, though discouraged. If the cyclist was obeying the rules of the rode and adequately lighted/marked for night riding, the FedEx guy may be in trouble. Probably fricked in the head regardless after killing someone. Maybe Missouri will come to their senses and make it illegal like most other states.
Laws regarding sidewalks and cycling were developed when cars went 15-20 MPH, there were more pedestrians by percentage, and horses were still as common as cars. Major metropolitan areas may be exceptions but I’d say almost every state and municipality should rethink those laws where bike lanes are not available or practical.
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Darwin's theory at work.
Which theory is that? If, by chance, you can actually name one explain how you think it applies in an incident like this.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:53 pm to Ingeniero
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A road cyclist is hitting 18-25mph, which is way way too fast to be interacting with pedestrians.
Car going 5 mph runs over bicycle, bicycle moron dies.
Car going 40mph runs into bicycle, bicycle moron dies.
Car going 70mph runs into bicycle, bicycle moron flies to the moon.
Bicycle going 20mph runs into person walking, no one dies, and likely there are zero injuries except maybe some scratches to the bicycle moron when the fall on the concrete.
So explain to me again how bikes on sidewalks is way too dangerous for pedestrians compared to cars being way to dangerous for bikes?
Posted on 7/29/19 at 2:01 pm to Ingeniero
What's wrong with leaving it up to the cyclist to determine which is safer? If there are no pedestrians on a sidewalk...or even a limited amount...allow them to use it. It is really easy for a pedestrian to take one step to the side to let the cyclist pass. It is much more difficult for a car or truck to step to the side. If the sidewalk is busy or not in an adequate condition suitable for the bike speeds, then the cyclist has the option of the road. I'm just not sure why we have to take common sense away from them.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 2:04 pm to Bedhog
I pray for this to happen to just about any motorcyclist I see on the interstate.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 2:12 pm to Gorilla Ball
quote:The dumbassess who ride their bikes on River Road deserve to get him. Insane
On river road this weekend cyclists were riding 4 wide. They looked annoyed at motorists. I cycle and I was annoyed with the cyclists.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 2:13 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Bicycle going 20mph runs into person walking, no one dies, and likely there are zero injuries except maybe some scratches to the bicycle moron when the fall on the concrete.
Please continue displaying how little you know. Better yet, stand in front of the next cyclist you see going 20mph then report back about how you walked away with "zero injuries"
Posted on 7/29/19 at 2:22 pm to Ingeniero
The key there is "walked away".
Posted on 7/29/19 at 2:27 pm to TeddyPadillac
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So explain to me again how bikes on sidewalks is way too dangerous for pedestrians compared to cars being way to dangerous for bikes?
I get you are ignorant of the subject matter but the totality of what you wrote requires hard work to be that stupid.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 2:55 pm to Ingeniero
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Please continue displaying how little you know. Better yet, stand in front of the next cyclist you see going 20mph then report back about how you walked away with "zero injuries"
You ever see a baseball player charging down the 3rd base line, run over the catcher, and one of them dies? How fast you think football players run?
The point is, you're not going to die when someone on a bike runs into you. When you get hit by a car and your on a bike, the liklihood of death is very high.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:04 pm to Obtuse1
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I get you are ignorant of the subject matter but the totality of what you wrote requires hard work to be that stupid.
And i get that some people will simply never understand how stupid it is to ride a bike around 5000lb pieces of metal that go fast, until it is too late.
In a perfect world, yeah, we should be able to have bikes on some roads and there be no accidents. But we don't live in a perfect world, and people on bikes trusting people in cars is just stupid.
I tell my kids all the time about not taking risks when the bad outcome is death. Like swimming in a pool when there's lighting outside. You are very unlikely to get struck, but if you do on that very rare chance, you die, so why would you risk it? no different than the idiots i see riding their bike down Airline or Florida Blvd. It's just a stupid risk to take.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:05 pm to TeddyPadillac
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:20 pm to Pelican fan99
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The dumbassess who ride their bikes on River Road deserve to get him. Insane
Knew a kid in high school that was training on River road with his whole team when a driver went in the wrong lane and killed him, so frick you, shitbird.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:27 pm to crazyLSUstudent
Oh come one man. Can it happen? Yes, all kinds of shite happens. People can trip over their own foot, fall, sustain a head injury and die. Is it likely to happen...no. We are talking about a reasonable sense of safety. There are exceptions and crazy examples of weird events happening in almost every scenario.
Don't be that guy.
Don't be that guy.
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