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re: Curtis Reeves,Retired Cop Who Fatally shot man in a Theater for Throwing Popcorn Acquitted
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:21 am to getyouinavacant
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:21 am to getyouinavacant
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Popcorn throwing is hardly a big escalation.
Great use of the benefit of hindsight. If the dude legit (which is how a jury of his peers saw it) feared what was about to happen the shooting is a good shoot.
Old guy didn’t know it was “just popcorn”.
If the rude arse wanted to live he should have put his damn phone away.
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:47 am to rt3
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I watched a good portion of that trial with the Rekieta stream... old man was absolutely justified in the shooting
This was not a justified use of deadly force.
The justice system 100% slow rolled this trial and I’m also convinced the prosecution didn’t want to jail one of their own.
Just because he got off doesn’t make it right.
You or I would be in jail for life in the same circumstances. This is preferential treatment for an ex police chief.
Just because a guy (Oulson) gets puffed up, throws popcorn, or even throws a cell phone doesn’t mean you get to pull your smoke wagon and blow him away.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:54 am to Steadyhands
quote:the retaliation to throwing popcorn and "bowing up" should not be lethal; i get it 'boo hoo i'm an old man....i'm scared...it's so dark in here...that popcorn could be stick of dynamite for all i know'.
you never gain the right to throw things at them and bow up to them.
Boomer escalated because he had a gun, played theater cop and killed someone in the process. frick him he should rot.
At the very least i hope the defense cost bankrupted him so that he lives in poverty for his remaining days.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:56 am to rt3
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rt3
You do realize the old man was free to get up and walk out of the theatre at anytime if he felt threatened? Secondly, popcorn and a cell phone toss is not a deadly threat, so he cannot respond with deadly force.
You sound like a POS trial attorney.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:06 am to TCO
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You do realize the old man was free to get up and walk out of the theatre at anytime if he felt threatened? Secondly, popcorn and a cell phone toss is not a deadly threat, so he cannot respond with deadly force.
This was in Florida. He was reasonably and legally justified in his actions.
You not liking them isn't the law.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:40 am to TCO
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You do realize the old man was free to get up and walk out of the theatre at anytime if he felt threatened?
In FL you have no duty to retreat.
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Secondly, popcorn and a cell phone toss is not a deadly threat,
What it is, is aggravated battery. How is the geezer supposed to know what the angry giant is going to assault him with this time? He already had a mark on his face from the first aggravated battery. Bullying did not work out for the guy that was the aggressor, at this point.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:51 am to Hangit
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What it is, is aggravated battery. How is the geezer supposed to know what the angry giant is going to assault him with this time? He already had a mark on his face from the first aggravated battery. Bullying did not work out for the guy that was the aggressor, at this point.
He could have pulled the gun and not pulled the trigger? That act alone could have been enough to de-escalate the situation without someone dying?
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:52 am to getyouinavacant
As a concealed carry holder, you are always supposed to be the cooler head in situations. I'm quite surprised he got acquitted. I would have just moved as the whole theater was empty.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:54 am to TCO
Never draw a firearm and aim unless you’re going to use it. It’s not a threat, it’s a tool to kill. If you draw and aim at someone without shooting you’ve just proven you didn’t need to draw and use it to prevent imminent harm.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:56 am to Damone
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If you draw and aim at someone without shooting you’ve just proven you didn’t need to draw and use it to prevent imminent harm.
That's not true. A lot of defensive draw incidents complete without a shot being fired.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:57 am to TCO
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He could have pulled the gun and not pulled the trigger?
No. There's no one worth listening to who would suggest that this would be a good idea.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:00 am to Areddishfish
quote:Gun gave him courage and entitlement instead of a sense of responsibility.
As a concealed carry holder, you are always supposed to be the cooler head in situations.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:18 am to drexyl
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Gun gave him courage and entitlement instead of a sense of responsibility.
More correctly...The Great Equalizer.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:21 am to RogerTheShrubber
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As a juror, you're not voting guilty because you think that may be the case.
To go to this point...
since this was a self defense case... the prosecution still has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the old man was NOT under threat and acted in an unreasonable manner
the jury has to put themselves in the old man's shoes at 71 years old with arthritis & herniated discs in his back (facts in evidence in the case) and say he acted completely illogically and in no way was under threat in order to convict
and under Florida law... dude was in the process of committing a forcible felony on someone 65+
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:30 am to AndyCBR
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The justice system 100% slow rolled this trial and I’m also convinced the prosecution didn’t want to jail one of their own.
If you think a State's Attorney's office did any favors to a cop, retired or not, in today's political climate you have completely misapprehended the situation - especially in a Democratic area like Tampa.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:31 am to drexyl
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Gun gave him courage and entitlement instead of a sense of responsibility.
“God made men, but Sam Colt made them equal.”
Old man did a community service. That millennial prick was picking on someone he thought he could bully without consequence.
frick em, just like Big Lee, the world is a better place without them!
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:38 am to TheOcean
He fricked with the wrong guy, bully the wrong guy you get bullied back that's how you stop this shite, he won't bully nobody else.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:41 am to Woodlands Tigah
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Old man did a community service. That millennial prick was picking on someone he thought he could bully without consequence.
Hate to bust your boomer fantasy, but the decedent was born around 1971.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:45 am to TCO
quote:I don’t think the shooting was appropriate, but you don’t pull a gun on someone unless you are justified in pulling the trigger, imo. Brandishing a weapon as a threat without the intent or justification to use it is a terrible idea.
He could have pulled the gun and not pulled the trigger?
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:50 am to TCO
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He could have pulled the gun and not pulled the trigger? That act alone could have been enough to de-escalate the situation without someone dying?
A 71 year old with arthritis vs. an early 40-something who's 6-3 200+ lbs
Yeah... old man would be disarmed easily if dude wanted to
By the way... from cell phone toss to gunshot was <10 seconds
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