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Culture of removal takes toll on Black students

Posted on 5/18/23 at 11:47 am
Posted by 427Nova
Member since Sep 2022
1722 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 11:47 am
Just walk the halls of Wenonah HS in Birmingham to get a feel for what it’s like. National statistics say the schools are correct.
Al.com
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43519 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 11:50 am to
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disproportionatel


please cancel this word
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29277 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 11:51 am to
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Experts at Auburn University call it a “culture of removal of Black students” in Alabama, which can have a number of harmful long-term impacts, including effectively derailing a student’s education and future prospects and negatively affecting their mental health.


What about the kids who are being respectful and trying to learn while chaos is happening in their classrooms?

It’s certainly disrupting to their education .

But yes.. we know.. it’s racism.. shocker…

Posted by footswitch
New Market
Member since Apr 2015
3909 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 11:52 am to
Never link to that trash.
Al.commie
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
34469 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 11:52 am to
Let me actually describe what’s in the article for everyone.

First off, AL.com has pop ups every ten seconds. frick them.

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In Alabama, Black students are nearly twice as likely to face every type of classroom removal as compared to their white peers.


No shite. They are the worst demographic for behavioral problems. It’s not even close.

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CJ spent his senior year in a disciplinary limbo after he would not confess to something he said he didn’t do. He was held in in-school suspension, disqualified from playing baseball and eventually sentenced to alternative school, paying a steep price for proclaiming his innocence. The situation snowballed until CJ couldn’t graduate with his friends or participate in his athletic season.


I read the whole story. I call bullshite on this. I doubt the journalist did much investigating, and even then, his case is one in a million.

Huntsville City Schools bends over backwards for everyone to walk across that stage. So did Caddo and Bossier Parish in Louisiana.

It’s a problem specific to Black students. No other minority has this type of problem.

Teaching is my second career, but it doesn’t take someone long to notice patterns of behavior and patterns of excuses and lowering standards to cater to a particular group. What’s worse is 9/10 students in the most ghetto schools in Shreveport really do want to do right and act right, but 200 clowns out of 2000 is more than enough to wreck a school.
This post was edited on 5/18/23 at 12:00 pm
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24540 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 11:53 am to
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What about the kids who are being respectful and trying to learn while chaos is happening in their classrooms?




They are irrelevant, because we must cater to the thugs
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6211 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 11:53 am to
the first paragraph says he dindu nuffin. surprise there.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 11:54 am to
al.com is a race-baiting dumpster fire. They employee some of the most dishonest and intellectually lazy writers in the industry. The city HS's are a joke,but al.com has embraced the DNC's mantra "the black man does no wrong."
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422393 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 11:57 am to
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One of the students then admitted to there being weed in the car but no one claimed it was theirs. When officials searched the vehicle, they found eight grams of marijuana by the passenger side, according to investigation documents reviewed by AL.com.


Constructive possession is a bitch of a thing.
Posted by 427Nova
Member since Sep 2022
1722 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 11:59 am to
Yes they do. Lots of discipline isn’t even reported. The get 1,000 chances. They disrupt the whole class and terrorize the school. Sure he stayed for math help and missed bus. They drove around smoking weed.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39994 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 11:59 am to
I'd like to see if schools that have mostly african american teachers have the same rates of expulsion.
Posted by 427Nova
Member since Sep 2022
1722 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 12:01 pm to
They do. They expel them just like white schools. One local high school kicked 12 out the other day for drugs and guns.
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6489 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 12:01 pm to
Let me all save you the time… yet another trash article from a notorious trash website written by a bitter feminist. Now you can go on with your day.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 12:02 pm to
where there's weed smoke...
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1001 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 12:03 pm to
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According to Baggett and Andrezejewski, dress code violations are a common cause of removal for Black children, as are other offenses like disruption and defiance, which are inherently subjective and up to the interpretation of staff.


You mean, the teacher has rules for his/her classoom? Adults in charge get to decide if children are being out of pocket? You don't say...
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 12:03 pm to
Just like all these studies, the message is always "stop punishing black people for breaking the rules"
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
34469 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 12:03 pm to
“Dress code violations” like showing your arse or wearing hoods. Which leads to defiance after compliance isn’t met.
This post was edited on 5/18/23 at 12:05 pm
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
2883 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 12:09 pm to
frick liberal commie trash
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
17232 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 12:13 pm to
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In Alabama, Black students are nearly twice as likely to face every type of classroom removal as compared to their white peers.

During the 2018-2019 school year, Alabama students spent 203,465 days in alternative school. And, although Black students made up only 32% of the student population in 2019, they served almost 60% of those alternative school days, according to an AL.com analysis of the most recent year of data provided. White students, who made up about 55% of the population, served only 33% of the days given.


Here's an idea, instead of calling out the educators and admins and saying it's a "culture of removal" how about we examine the REASONS why black students are disproportionally disciplined and maybe there's a "culture of misbehavior" that needs to be addressed. But that's too problematic and no one will touch that.

They can bring up this one singular case where it may be a bullshite expulsion, but there's no way they're ALL bullshite. Why don't we examine this case by case and see if these expulsions are largely bullshite or justified before we go labelling which culture is the problematic one.

Besides, I can bring up one singular case where a white guy was expelled from school and had to attend an alternative school as well. Back in HS my friend and his dad went fishing over the weekend, his dad had an ice chest of beer in the bed of the truck that my friend drove to school, and they never took the ice chest out of the bed when they got back home. Friend went to school that Monday thinking nothing of it but some nosy admin saw the ice chest in the truck in the parking lot and found a bunch of beer, so they expelled my friend for bringing alcohol on campus. But he's white so he didn't get a big exposé in the papers
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
53907 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 12:16 pm to
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lowering standards to cater to a particular group

I was told recently in another thread that we haven't lowered standards. We have simply removed a false barrier of entry in the form of having too high of standards that keeps black people and other minorities from reaching their full potential.

Nothing to see here. No standards lowered. Everything is fine and as it should be.

Nevermind that before we started our race to the bottom that bullshite was proven wrong with pretty much every graduating class.
This post was edited on 5/18/23 at 12:17 pm
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