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re: Covid19 vaccine developer puts trials on hold after volunteer has serious adverse reaction
Posted on 9/8/20 at 6:58 pm to BestBanker
Posted on 9/8/20 at 6:58 pm to BestBanker
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There's never been a vaccine for any corona virus.
Yes, because there has never been a need for one like this. That really means it was never financially worth it before Covid 19
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Posted on 9/8/20 at 7:01 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Covid19 vaccine developer puts trials on hold after volunteer has serious adverse reaction
Which is exactly why I won’t take a rushed vaccine for something that has a less than 0.1% chance it killing me, and I have a less than 1% chance of contracting it.
ETA
I’ll take the second or third version of it once it’s been tested and proven. I’m not taking the first one.
This post was edited on 9/8/20 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 9/8/20 at 7:12 pm to Dizz
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because there has never been a need for one like this.
A vaccine for the common cold would be a worldwide blockbuster. Its never been financially worth it because its proven impossible to do thus far.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 7:14 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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A vaccine for the common cold would be a worldwide blockbuster. Its never been financially worth it because its proven impossible to do thus far
The common cold is usually a rhinovirus. The other common cold coronaviruses aren't serious to warrant the millions of dollars it takes to develop a vaccine.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 7:41 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Do some research on Dr. Alton Ochsner giving his grandchildren a polio vaccine. It killed his grandson.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 7:44 pm to hendersonshands
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So while it could be a reaction to the vaccine, it could just be random illness.
Well frick. I already got my pitchfork out.
What should we do now?
Posted on 9/8/20 at 8:03 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I would be more concerned if we never got a story like this.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 8:21 pm to tiger91
You do realize that 30,000 people will have been given the vaccine before even the very first patient outside of the clinical trial could receive it right?
Posted on 9/8/20 at 9:14 pm to heatom2
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The other common cold coronaviruses aren't serious to warrant the millions of dollars it takes to develop a vaccine.
Yea well I'm still right
Posted on 9/8/20 at 9:45 pm to BengalBlood81
I hope they have a lottery or random drawing..
Signed,
Aaron Aardsma
Signed,
Aaron Aardsma
Posted on 9/8/20 at 9:52 pm to BengalBlood81
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You do realize that 30,000 people will have been given the vaccine before even the very first patient outside of the clinical trial could receive it right?
30,000 is a drop in the bucket. It tells you nothing about real world safety.
It took 20 million people to take Vioxx before it was pulled from the market after causing 38,000 deaths from myocardial infarction.
How many terrified people do you think would line up to take a vaccine in the first 6 months it was available in this crisis?
My guess is 500 million worldwide.
If it is 50% safer than Vioxx it would only cause about 475,000 deaths.
Roll it out boys!
There is money to be made!
Posted on 9/8/20 at 10:03 pm to SECdragonmaster
The world we live in today...
One potential, unverified, adverse reaction in a clinical trial leads to:
"SEE! THIS IS WHY I'LL NEVER TAKE A VACCINE, THEY WERE ALL LYING!!!!!"
Un-fricking-real the idiocy that pervades our society. Can anyone wait for anything nowadays, without instantly going to an extreme? Apparently not.
One potential, unverified, adverse reaction in a clinical trial leads to:
"SEE! THIS IS WHY I'LL NEVER TAKE A VACCINE, THEY WERE ALL LYING!!!!!"
Un-fricking-real the idiocy that pervades our society. Can anyone wait for anything nowadays, without instantly going to an extreme? Apparently not.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 10:09 pm to SECdragonmaster
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30,000 is a drop in the bucket. It tells you nothing about real world safety.
It does, actually. The trials are powered specifically to assess both efficacy and safety in large populations.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 10:26 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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SEE! THIS IS WHY I'LL NEVER TAKE A VACCINE, THEY WERE ALL LYING!!!!!"
Nice jump to conclusions.
Never said I would not take a vaccine. Just not one rushed to market until it’s been proven to be safe over several years. Especially when the virus itself is almost never fatal.
But you do that straw man dance.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 10:30 pm to SECdragonmaster
I wasn't talking about you specifically, even though I think I replied to you, but others have said as much in this thread and others.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 10:31 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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A vaccine for the common cold would be a worldwide blockbuster. Its never been financially worth it because its proven impossible to do thus far.
The common cold is mostly cussed by rhinoviruses not a corona virus. Way to many strains of common cold to make a vaccine.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 10:31 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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This is first time in history that a vaccine trial had to be put on hold due to bad reaction
Cite for this? Not in that story.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 10:35 pm to hendersonshands
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it’s possible that the illness has nothing to do with the vaccine
Who gives a frick? Dump that vaccine before some
serious shite breaks out. Not sorry.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 10:36 pm to Dalosaqy
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Who gives a frick? Dump that vaccine before some
serious shite breaks out. Not sorry.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 10:43 pm to Chucktown_Badger
Like we should waste the vaccine on you troglodytes...let’s let it get to South Louisiana last, really preserve the worlds brain trust.
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