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re: Court Rules in Pornhub Favor in Finding Texas Age-Verification Law Violates 1st Amendment
Posted on 9/1/23 at 7:00 pm to Wayne Campbell
Posted on 9/1/23 at 7:00 pm to Wayne Campbell
quote:just to be clear, you’re for children having unfettered access to porn?
So just to be clear, you’re pro-government oversight and control.
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 7:03 pm to Dr RC
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Some of y'all sound like the people who said "Hey what the problem, they're just looking for terrorists" when the Patriot Act was passed.
You don’t have to give the govt the power of the Patriot Act just to develop and enforce a secure and anonymous verification of user being 18 or older. Verification of being at least 18 also isn’t a service that would just be limited to porn.
Databases already exist. Some can be bought without a warrant.
An Apple or Google Pay type process and/or maybe Apple or Google login into others site process that solely creates an encrypted certificate solely verifying 18 or older that can be transmitted with touch or Face ID to other sites & apps (not necessarily using Apple or google but just a similar concept/process). Specific age, location, name, and other stuff do not need to be transmitted. A secure and private handshake verification of being 18 or older when required or setting up accounts that have an age requirement with a certificate thats limited, private, secure, and automatically randomized. If a parent adds the child’s fingerprint/face ID to their device/verification or parent adds their verification/credentials to kid’s device than that’s on the parents at that point (or any adult that adds their to a kid’s device would be at fault).
It’s obviously not as easy as I am making it, but had this been the starting point years ago we would have a standard by now. It should coincide with a privacy act that makes collecting and selling others’ personal info illegal with some very limited exceptions that still have to be opt in not opt out. It should be similar to European privacy act but without exempting govts or forcing back doors into encryption.
This post was edited on 9/1/23 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 9/1/23 at 7:25 pm to Dr RC
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Clarence Thomas flat out said the case that made birth control legal all across the country should be overturned.
He wants to do away with the legal concept of “substantive due process” and thinks those decisions should be reconsidered to correct the legal reasoning error established in those precedents. He also said that doesn’t mean that the specific end result of decisions were wrong but just the reasoning for the end result as written in decisions (which along with the precedents are then applied to other cases).
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After overruling these demonstrably erroneous decisions, the question would remain whether other constitutional provisions guarantee the myriad rights that our substantive due process cases have generated. For example, we could consider whether any of the rights announced in this Court’s substantive due process cases are “privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States” protected by the Fourteenth Amendment.
This post was edited on 9/1/23 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 9/1/23 at 7:27 pm to Dr RC
Can you define privacy and security, then tell me the difference between the two?
Posted on 9/1/23 at 7:37 pm to gmac8604
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How does age-verification violate the 1st ammendment, specifically regarding the freedom of speech, on a porn site?
Indeed. This is creating a slippery slope.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 7:42 pm to High C
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, Pornhub sued to ensure that little kids would have access to porn?
I think the disclaimer was more the issue.
My problem with it is that Louisiana had a massive DMV breach and didn't tell anyone for fricking months then expects us to trust this.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 7:51 pm to Srbtiger06
I will support porn id checks when the left supports voter id checks.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 7:56 pm to gmac8604
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How does age-verification violate the 1st ammendment, specifically regarding the freedom of speech, on a porn site?
Doesn’t make sense at all. We have age verification requirements to watch movies in movie theaters and to buy porno magazines. What makes online porm not subject to age access laws?
Posted on 9/1/23 at 8:02 pm to td1
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I will support porn id checks when the left supports voter id checks
Tell me you are progressive without telling me you are a progressive.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 8:45 pm to Srbtiger06
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the disclaimer was more the issue
Product safety warnings are well established as permissible.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 8:57 pm to BluegrassBelle
If rolling stone is for it. I am against it.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 9:12 pm to stout
Arkansas is still jacked here, I've had to change my phone settings to Canada to get around them blocking me and wanting to know my age....
Posted on 9/1/23 at 9:17 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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you’re for children having unfettered access to porn?
You think it’s a driver’s license that stops kids from driving away in mama’s minivan?
Posted on 9/1/23 at 9:37 pm to stout
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At least five other states have enacted similar age-verification laws aimed at blocking access to pornography sites: Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Utah and Virginia. Pornhub, for one, after complying with the Louisiana law, subsequently opted to block access to users in the other four states.
Is there a site showing the differences in the age-verification laws of the states above compared to the Texas law?
What outside of Texas having a larger population than the above states combined was different enough for pornhub to file a suit instead of just implementing verification or blocking state entirely like they did with other states?
I thought illegals went more for the underage stuff, so unless pornhub has underage porn that can’t be the reason.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 9:48 pm to stout
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No more need for a proxy to jack it in Texas
I am married. It is very important that I understand if I need a permit.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 9:52 pm to TBoy
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Doesn’t make sense at all. We have age verification requirements to watch movies in movie theaters and to buy porno magazines. What makes online porm not subject to age access laws?
Age verification requirements for movies are run by the MPAA, a private organization (which is also voluntary). The verification law we are talking about was passed by a state which is clearly subject to Constitutional limits. Very different.
This post was edited on 9/1/23 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 9/1/23 at 10:33 pm to High C
When a minimum age requirement was put in their business dropped 80%. What does that tell us?
Posted on 9/1/23 at 11:09 pm to Bulldog1974
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When a minimum age requirement was put in their business dropped 80%. What does that tell us?
That Louisiana residents don’t want to link their LA Wallet to their Pornhub searches.
Surely you don’t think that 80% of LA Pornhub hits were minors.
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