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re: Couple die in desert hike with nine year old son

Posted on 8/10/15 at 4:32 pm to
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 4:32 pm to
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That's the most boring thing you've ever posted.


:/
Posted by LST
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 4:58 pm to
I'm late to the thread, but this is a pretty good read. It's about a group of Germans who were lost in Death Valley in 1996 and a guy in 2010 that sets out to find what happened to them.

LINK/
Posted by tigers win2
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 5:02 pm to
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I read about these dumbasses last week. Going for a hike in the desert during the summer in the afternoon with only two 20oz bottles of water isn't very smart.


Agree. And how do you get disoriented in a desert ( sand). Can't you see your footsteps and back track????? It was only a short loop trail
This post was edited on 8/10/15 at 5:03 pm
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 6:43 pm to
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I'm late to the thread, but this is a pretty good read. It's about a group of Germans who were lost in Death Valley in 1996 and a guy in 2010 that sets out to find what happened to them.



Just coming back to say I spent the last 90 minutes reading that...
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 6:47 pm to
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how do you get disoriented in a desert


That's a result of the heat stroke.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38708 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 6:59 pm to
Sad story and I'll probably be on that same trail next month. As a guy who's hiked Death Valley, you need to plan ahead and know your limits. Two bottles of damn water for three people?! On that kind of hike this time of year I'd max out how much I could carry in water.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20497 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 9:55 pm to
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Burg Eltz


Unrelated but we were at Burg Eltz making the walk down. we were at the first overview of it and my sister was sarcastically saying "where's the castle," while looking at a map and we heard a german lady say "dumb Americans." Germans don't get sarcasm.
Posted by Smoke Green
Tianjin, Peoples Republic of China
Member since Apr 2005
4383 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:12 pm to
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Grand Staircase Escalante


will trek there next month. two days at the grand canyon north rim, vermilion cliffs, grand staircase...hope to finish it up with kane gulch, monument valley, etc...
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:19 pm to
This was a completely preventable tragedy.

If only the couple had met a German before they died, they could have surrendered to him/her rather than the desert.

The French family should seek justice from the ICJ.

Germany once again has blood on its hands.
Posted by Monk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:30 pm to
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3) We have become desensitized to warnings. Thanks to lawyers, we are inundated with excessive warnings over even the most trivial of hazards. The effect has been to water down their effectiveness, especially on the dim-witted, who can't tell the difference between real and trumped up dangers.


This was a U.S. Park so the warnings were in Spanish and English and the French generally only recognize the French language. They probably couldn't accept that the Americans would turn a barren lifeless death trap in the desert into a tourist attraction.
Posted by tickfawtiger
Killian LA
Member since Sep 2005
11525 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 11:02 pm to
Oh well....Darwinism at work I guess !
Posted by HaveMercy
Member since Dec 2014
3000 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 11:30 pm to
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3) We have become desensitized to warnings. Thanks to lawyers, we are inundated with excessive warnings over even the most trivial of hazards. The effect has been to water down their effectiveness, especially on the dim-witted, who can't tell the difference between real and trumped up dangers.


This.

But then again, if not for those warnings, I might try and stop a chain saw with my hand...
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19410 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 5:01 am to
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Agree. And how do you get disoriented in a desert ( sand). Can't you see your footsteps and back track????? It was only a short loop trail


It's apparently a pretty easy thing to do. If you're over half way through the loop trail, are you going to turn around and follow your steps? No, you will probably keep going.

Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20497 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 5:20 am to
Why do people in a blizzard take off all their clothes? Same reason. I've been delusional sick/ disoriented before and you can't control a damn thing.
Posted by TheDude
Member since May 2004
2698 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 7:01 am to
I just got back about a week ago from 10 days in Yellowstone and Glacier. The NPS has signs for everything everywhere. People are just stupid. The fact that I had to yell and tell a couple people that it was a bad idea to leave the boardwalk in a geyser basin to get a better look at a hot spring, proves that.

On a side note, when did visiting the parks become so damn trendy? I know places like Yellowstone and Glacier will always have crowds, but it was insane. Ive been going to the parks since i was 5 and it wasn't like this before. There were places you couldn't walk without getting in the way of a bus load of Asian tourists taking selfies. By the way, I hope the inventor of the selfie stick is killed by being impaled in the arse with his own invention.

I think I've decided how I will plan my next trip involving the national parks. I'll just get together a list of the 15 or so least visited parks and see which ones interest me.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/11/15 at 7:14 am to
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I think I've decided how I will plan my next trip involving the national parks. I'll just get together a list of the 15 or so least visited parks and see which ones interest me.


Ranking 2014

Have fun!
Posted by Tear It Up
The Deadening
Member since May 2005
13913 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 7:16 am to
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By the way, I hope the inventor of the selfie stick is killed by being impaled in the arse with his own invention.


:upvote:
Posted by Phideaux
Cades Cove
Member since May 2008
2630 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 7:40 am to
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Reminds me of people trying to hike 8-10 mile trails in the Smokies in jeans and tennis shoes or flip flops who start their hikes at around 1 in the afternoon. These are the same people who try to get selfies with black bears.



That is the truth, I stop people all the time ask them do you have a map, do you have water do you know what time sundown is? I have picked up people that have no clue how they got from point A to B or wander into my area off a trail asking where am I?
Posted by LSU03
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Member since Dec 2003
563 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 7:41 am to
Yeah, all that, and the fact that they didn't speak/read English and couldn't read the warning signs?
Posted by LST
Member since Jan 2007
16316 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 7:46 am to
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Just coming back to say I spent the last 90 minutes reading that...


It does a great job of reeling you in and making you want to know wtf happened to those people.
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