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re: Country Music is changing, Jason Isbell's White Man's World

Posted on 6/30/18 at 6:42 pm to
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
Member since Mar 2017
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 6:42 pm to
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See this is such a dumb thing. You like the Beatles? Their politics are probably different than yours. What about CCR? Their politics are pretty left as well. Skynyrd was a band of hippies, same with the Allman Brothers. What if Stevie Ray Vaughan was a Communist? Would you not listen to him?


I actually hate the Beatles and have never listened to SRV. I like Skynyrd, CCR, and the Allman Brothers.. I also like Neil Young. Those bands are before my time so their politics don’t resonate with me one way or the other. Rage Against the Machine is one of my favorite bands and I hate everything about their views. While I don’t agree with all their politics, I respect their opinions (and talent).

But Jason Isbell is just apologizing for being white.. to appease people in this day and age.

But by all means lambaste me for having my own opinion.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 6:46 pm to
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Name one such transformation. If anything, conservatives are giddy because a conservative President is actually trying and doing conservative things. The oddness is that the feeling is odd.


Are you kidding? Republicans are pushing out anybody that isn't 100% on the Trump Train with every single issue. Question Trump once, even on something as little as one of his tweets, and you'll get attacked and called a "libtard SJW snowflake", doesn't matter if you're a registered card-carrying Republican. You can thank that hostile attitude towards anybody with a different opinion if the Democrats win in 2020.

Trump himself has been regularly inserting himself into State level primary elections to attack and defame any Republican that doesn't kiss his arse on the reg.

Even Fox News talks about the transformation of the GOP and admits it has become the "Party of Trump"
Posted by Lsupimp
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 6:51 pm to
Solid TDS outburst man. I knew you had it in you to bring Trump to the Jason Isbell thread. Well done.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12690 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 7:01 pm to
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See this is such a dumb thing. You like the Beatles? Their politics are probably different than yours. What about CCR? Their politics are pretty left as well. Skynyrd was a band of hippies, same with the Allman Brothers. What if Stevie Ray Vaughan was a Communist? Would you not listen to him?


I’ll also throw out that Isbell and dbt seem incredibly comfortable with the fact that their intended audience does not include people who can’t handle their viewpoints. That poster may be flattering himself by saying he is their audience.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 7:02 pm to
I’m extremely conservative, good music is good music.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 7:04 pm to
Yep.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 7:05 pm to
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But Jason Isbell is just apologizing for being white.. to appease people in this day and age.



The song isn't an apology. It's about realizing that as a white man you won't have to deal with certain things that women or black men run into during their lives, and it's about realizing that you can't change that yourself so you shouldn't hate yourself for it. Which is exactly what most of y'all bitching about this song are trying to claim.

I doubt most of y'all snowflakes even looked into the song any further than the title
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 7:05 pm to
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Jason Isbell is just apologizing for being white.. to appease people in this day and age.


I’ve heard him apologize for letting racism slide unchecked. I’ve heard him acknowledge that as a white dude he’s got a few blessings that others don’t... I can’t say I’ve much apologizing for being white though.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 7:08 pm to
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Solid TDS outburst man. I knew you had it in you to bring Trump to the Jason Isbell thread. Well done.



Trump gets mentioned once after 11 pages of people crying about liberals and you get butthurt

Typical far right snowflake
Posted by Lsupimp
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Member since Nov 2003
86171 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 7:09 pm to
I read it that he was surrounded by white racists as a kid. And he feels like he wants to morally distance himself from that . It’s common. We see the same thing with homosexuality and religion.
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 7:11 pm to
Pandering and virtue signaling. I pay to be entertained and not be preached to and subjected to his opinion.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12690 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 7:17 pm to
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Pandering and virtue signaling. I pay to be entertained and not be preached to and subjected to his opinion.


So he should pander to you instead of be true to his own viewpoints?
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
53527 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 7:19 pm to
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I’ve heard him acknowledge that as a white dude he’s got a few blessings that others don’t..

Like what? Affirmative action is a far bigger advantage than anything white people have
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 7:20 pm to
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Affirmative action is a far bigger advantage than anything white people have



Is it?
Posted by Lsupimp
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86171 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 7:20 pm to
Except you melted about Trump TWICE in a Jason Isbell thread . I graciously ignored the first . But your Trump Derangement Syndrome is so ingrained that you can’t help yourself. And then as a defense mechanism, you call those who simply notice a “ snowflake “.



You should seek help before TRUMP is the only word you can mumble from a catatonic State. Lol.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53527 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 7:22 pm to
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Is it?

Inherently yes. Imagine the outrage if Microsoft and ExxonMobil had programs and quotas to hire more white males
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12690 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 7:24 pm to
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Like what? Affirmative action is a far bigger advantage than anything white people have


We could go back and forth, or just acknowledge that people disagree on this issue. I suspect you know the answer to your question already and are resolute in your opinion, so I don’t really have the desire to debate what wasn’t even me vocalizing my own stance but outlining someone else’s.

My point was that he didn’t “apologize for being white” and and encourage you to take up that point for debate instead.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 7:26 pm to
You actually hooked me for a second there, well done
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86171 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 7:28 pm to
Dude we both like Jason Isbell. Let’s just drink to that and move along without all the drama.
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
196563 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 7:29 pm to
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and have never listened to SRV
everything you say after this means nothing
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