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re: Could a residential lease contract state that the eviction moratorium doesn't apply?

Posted on 1/18/21 at 9:17 pm to
Posted by Ben Hur
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2013
888 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 9:17 pm to
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the moratorium applies to, specifically non-payment of rent. if you violate your lease for other reasons you can be evicted


Ok makes sense. And for non-payment a tenant can be evicted as soon as the moratorium is lifted, right?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 9:20 pm to
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And for non-payment a tenant can be evicted as soon as the moratorium is lifted, right?


i guess so, if that ever happens
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 9:21 pm to
a guy i know went full time in the buy-rent game a couple years ago and he's still buying properties (in TX now) to rent

i almost messaged him a couple months ago asking him if he was insane
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167270 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 9:23 pm to
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i almost messaged him a couple months ago asking him if he was insane



I know someone snatching up properties left and right in LC for rentals. I want some too but I will stick to flipping what I can until this crap is over with. The way the Dems are going they might just give the rentals to the tenants.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80247 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 9:34 pm to
Constitution
Statutory law
Private contract

That’s the hierarchy. Your moratorium is in between statutory law and private contract.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 9:35 pm to
quote:

 do a month-to-month lease


thats what I do..I also then price rent higher because the renter has "more flexibility" ...
This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 9:37 pm
Posted by texn
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 10:26 pm to
Month to month lease isn’t a work around to eviction moratorium. You still have to evict if the tenant holds over
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
106093 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 11:24 pm to
I haven’t had any issues evicting here in Louisiana. Where is this?

Though I haven’t had to since before the holidays. Is this a thing again?
This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 11:27 pm
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
Member since Jul 2013
11426 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 11:52 pm to
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Constitution
Statutory law
Private contract




quote:

Constitution



quote:

boosiebadazz



Does not compute.

Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 12:02 am to
Are you asking if two people can agree between themselves that laws do not apply to them?

Sure, but local, state, and federal laws will still apply to them.
This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 12:04 am
Posted by beachdude
FL
Member since Nov 2008
5642 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 12:19 am to
Yes.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30550 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 7:08 am to
quote:


there is only a specific sliver that the moratorium applies to, specifically non-payment of rent. if you violate your lease for other reasons you can be evicted


Correct , friend of mine has several rent houses in NO and has evicted several for “other” violations.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422492 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 7:11 am to
quote:

Month to month lease isn’t a work around to eviction moratorium.

how is it not? the lease is over

the moratorium is solely for non-payment. the lease ending isn't non-payment
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29386 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 7:15 am to
Again, what is the mechanism to make the landlord whole after this is over? Most people have rental properties as income sources. Are they supposed to just let their tenants live rent free for at least 18 months for the “greater good”?
Posted by Shankopotomus
Social Distanced
Member since Feb 2009
21057 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 7:43 am to
Just remember the eviction moratorium comes from the CDC

Not HUD

Or the DOJ

The CDC

The whole thing is weird
Posted by jclem11
Neoliberal Shill
Member since Nov 2011
7785 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:01 am to
quote:

federal government thinks they have the authority to tell a property owner what the can or cannot do with their own property.


That's cute that you think you actually own the property little serf. lmao.
Posted by lsualum01
Member since Sep 2008
1755 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:09 am to
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It's so absurd really. I am buying some hurricane-damaged properties and trying to figure out if I will fix or flip them. This pretty much makes my decision easier for now.


Find decent properties next to hospitals, rent to contract healthcare employees for 3 month increments for above market rents. They will be leaving in 3 months anyways. Just one pivot strategy that has worked for me.
Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13498 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:18 am to
quote:

there is only a specific sliver that the moratorium applies to, specifically non-payment of rent. if you violate your lease for other reasons you can be evicted


You can still evict for non payment, it's up to the tenant to submit the CDC declaration ( PDF) that the non-payment was due to COVID19. They can also simply testify to same orally in court, from what I've seen.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31073 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 9:27 am to
correct, best way is to do month to month lease for a higher amount. Stout is still better flipping though.
Posted by jfw3535
South of Bunkie
Member since Mar 2008
4658 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:18 am to
There are lots of leases and other contracts that have unenforceable terms in them. But the tenant or other party against whom the clauses are being enforced has to know that and fight it. So if I put a clause in my lease that says the moratorium doesn't apply and you as the tenant don't know it's not enforceable and I later tell you I'm evicting you and so you move out b/c you think the lease requires you to do so, then I have successfully applied that clause in your case, even though I wouldn't have otherwise been able to enforce it in court.
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