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re: Could a modern supercar complete a 500 mile Nascar oval race?
Posted on 12/10/18 at 2:40 pm to Dam Guide
Posted on 12/10/18 at 2:40 pm to Dam Guide
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Would be interesting to see what happens in this scenario without any modifications to the rules. I'd watch highlights from it, be boring as frick to watch them attempt it.
Rusty Wallace hit 228 at the end of the straight at Talladega not that long ago, averaged something like 221.
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 2:50 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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NASCAR isn’t a sport
True, neither is golf while we are at it.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 2:58 pm to Restomod
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NASCAR isn’t a sport
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True, neither is golf while we are at it.
And its not "Stock Car Racing" they should adopt a new acronym.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 3:07 pm to troyt37
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And Bill Elliot qualified at 212.809 mph at Talladega in 1987. On an oval. More than a decade before this F1 run. Obviously, 240 mph is a whole different world than even 200 mph, but notice that the speedo on the F1 was above 380kph for a total of 24 seconds.
Not sure what you are trying to say here, but F1 cars will be significantly faster on a race track, its pretty much proven. They[F1] just dont race on ovals because no one wants to see them turn left 800 times. But the races on the same courses, they significantly faster. Look at Watkins glen. average nascar around 100 mph, F1 120-130 mph. Thats a hell of a difference
Posted on 12/10/18 at 3:12 pm to NYCAuburn
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They[F1] just dont race on ovals because no one wants to see them turn left 800 times. But the races on the same courses, they significantly faster. Look at Watkins glen. average nascar around 100 mph, F1 120-130 mph. Thats a hell of a difference
He was talking about the McLaren, not the racing organization.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 3:12 pm to NYCAuburn
We're talking about the McLaren F1. Not Formula 1.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 3:16 pm to NYCAuburn
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Not sure what you are trying to say here
I'm trying to say that supercars, regardless of which one, were never intended to be ran at even 80% capacity for however long a gas tank lasts, then pit to fill up, head back out and run at 80-85% time after time, for 500 miles. They weren't built for that, and I seriously doubt any of them could take it.
They were built to handle, look good, run well all around, and be able to do a high speed blast every once in a while.
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Look at Watkins glen. average nascar around 100 mph, F1 120-130 mph. Thats a hell of a difference
You aren't seriously comparing NASCAR and F1 speeds on a road course, are you? Why?
Posted on 12/10/18 at 3:22 pm to troyt37
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I'm trying to say that supercars, regardless of which one, were never intended to be ran at even 80% capacity for however long a gas tank lasts, then pit to fill up, head back out and run at 80-85% time after time, for 500 miles.
And yet somehow, against all odds, they manage to do it.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 3:23 pm to MountainTiger
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And yet somehow, against all odds, they manage to do it.
Link?
Posted on 12/10/18 at 3:25 pm to troyt37
Posted on 12/10/18 at 3:26 pm to troyt37
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I'm trying to say that supercars, regardless of which one, were never intended to be ran at even 80% capacity for however long a gas tank lasts, then pit to fill up, head back out and run at 80-85% time after time, for 500 miles.
That's cool and all, but you're wrong. This isn't the 80s anymore. Your Countach doesn't need a tune up between oil changes like it used to to make 500 hp.
There are classes you can enter with your supercar in endurance racing that is basically stock + slicks + Safety gear.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 3:32 pm to troyt37
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I'm trying to say that supercars, regardless of which one, were never intended to be ran at even 80% capacity for however long a gas tank lasts, then pit to fill up, head back out and run at 80-85% time after time, for 500 miles. They weren't built for that, and I seriously doubt any of them could take it.
They were built to handle, look good, run well all around, and be able to do a high speed blast every once in a while.
Yea, you don't know what you're talking about. Stop upvoting your own posts.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 3:32 pm to Dam Guide
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He was talking about the McLaren, not the racing organization.
ahh, Im a dumbass Posted on 12/10/18 at 3:34 pm to MountainTiger
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I rest my case. If you don't understand, compare and contrast the LeMans and Talladega tracks.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 3:34 pm to troyt37
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They were built to handle, look good, run well all around, and be able to do a high speed blast every once in a while.
Many of them were built with the GT circuit in mind. Which is endurance racing
Posted on 12/10/18 at 3:37 pm to weagle99
Jeeze. I don't think I ever saw a 'supercar' even make it through an hour of Top Gear. No way, no how in a race of any length.
They're for looking at and making vroom vroom noises, not actually moving anywhere.
They're for looking at and making vroom vroom noises, not actually moving anywhere.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 3:37 pm to troyt37
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I rest my case. If you don't understand, compare and contrast the LeMans and Talladega tracks.
Cars putting down 2500+ miles on le mans
Posted on 12/10/18 at 3:42 pm to NYCAuburn
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I rest my case. If you don't understand, compare and contrast the LeMans and Talladega tracks.
Cars putting down 2500+ miles on le mans
DurDurDurrr but talladega is the toughest track in the world.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 3:43 pm to s14suspense
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That's cool and all, but you're wrong. This isn't the 80s anymore. Your Countach doesn't need a tune up between oil changes like it used to to make 500 hp.
Yeah, but can a modern 600 hp supercar make a near constant 480 hp for 3-4 hours? That is the question here.
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There are classes you can enter with your supercar in endurance racing that is basically stock + slicks + Safety gear.
I wouldn't doubt there are classes for VW Beetles too.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 3:44 pm to MountainTiger
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not the same thing, some classes may be based on production, but those engines are highly modified for endurance racing. 
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