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Coronavirus: 'Major breakthrough

Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:14 am
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:14 am
Coronavirus: 'Major breakthrough' as UK scientists find £5 steroid cuts COVID-19 deaths


The drug, dexamethasone, reduced death rates by a third for patients on ventilators, and by a fifth for patients needing oxygen

Scientists in the UK have discovered a cheap and available treatment for COVID-19 patients.

They have described the use of common steroid drug dexamethasone in treating the coronavirus as a "major breakthrough".

Professor Peter Horby, a University of Oxford academic who led the trial, said "what we saw was really quite remarkable".

He said the drug reduced death rates by around 35% for COVID-19 patients on ventilators, and by about 20% for patients needing oxygen.

Speaking at the daily Downing Street news briefing, he said: "In three months, we have enrolled over 11,500 patients and this makes it by far the biggest clinical trial in the world."

This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 10:15 am
Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
Lafayette
Member since May 2013
12551 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:15 am to
Let's hurry and ban it!
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131949 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:16 am to
Its a good step. They can see what caused this to work and come with more targeted, better treatments.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
62222 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:17 am to
Wait, is this cleared by Gates and Fauci?
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18310 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:17 am to
Before they said steroids made it worse, nobody knows what to believe
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
47783 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:19 am to
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Let's hurry and ban it!


You have to find out if POTUS likes it first. CNN is waiting for him to weigh in so they can choose the opposite.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
11679 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:21 am to
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He said the drug reduced death rates by around 35% for COVID-19 patients on ventilators, and by about 20% for patients needing oxygen.


This is worded weird. First of all, a person on a ventilator obviously needs oxygen. Assuming they mean a "patient needing oxygen" to be just an oxygen tank, you would figure they are less sick than a person on a ventilator, and should have a higher percentage.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
22282 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:21 am to
Media after this report: We are on the right path to finding a cure.

Trump: dexamethasone is a GREAT drug that is doing GREAT things and has the BEST results

Media: Trump supports a drug that kills 80%
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
132705 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:22 am to
I will wait until I get Dr Joy Behar’s opinion on this
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
62222 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:22 am to
At this point, Trump should just come out and question every drug treatment they come out with. Anything that he actually endorses will be demonized with the quickness.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53623 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:23 am to
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Before they said steroids made it worse, nobody knows what to believe



The problem is that this is a long drawn out process and the media keeps blasting headlines based on every preliminary thing.

Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25964 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:25 am to
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The problem is that


...the WHO said from jump not to use steroids.

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this is a long drawn out process and the media keeps blasting headlines based on every preliminary thing.


True, and do a poor job of blasting new information once it's available.
Posted by Uptowner
The OP
Member since Oct 2019
2030 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:27 am to
IDK but for me, while cutting death rates for people on ventilators or oxygen is a good thing, it's not a "major breakthrough". A cure that works for nearly 100% of people, or an effective vaccine, are the only real "major breakthoughs" re:COVID-19.
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
11163 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:30 am to
Fauci and the pharma bro’s will not be happy
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 10:32 am
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53623 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:31 am to
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This is worded weird. First of all, a person on a ventilator obviously needs oxygen. Assuming they mean a "patient needing oxygen" to be just an oxygen tank, you would figure they are less sick than a person on a ventilator, and should have a higher percentage.


It’s not worded weird at all.

You “assuming” is rather obvious because there is a whole list of supportive oxygen treatments before needing a vent.


As for percentage variation: It’s two different groups with two different baselines. The numbers provided are relative to the respective baseline.

This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 10:31 am
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17869 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:32 am to
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The drug appears to stop the damage from the severe immune reaction, called a “cytokine storm”, that researchers increasingly believe is responsible for causing some patients to have multiple organ failure and ultimately die.


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It’s important to caveat the triumph, with the fact that the scientific community has not yet seen the full paper and results.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53623 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:34 am to
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.the WHO said from jump not to use steroids


Not that I doubt it because they have been useless and reactionary the entire time...but do you have a link?
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
26701 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:41 am to
Still not as effective as Hydrochloroquin pack.


Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25964 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:43 am to
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Not that I doubt it because they have been useless and reactionary the entire time...but do you have a link?


Here you go from March 13th. Jump down to page 10, item number 10.

quote:

Do not routinely give systemic corticosteroids for treatment of viral pneumonia outside clinical trials.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:45 am to
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A cure that works for nearly 100% of people


That's never gonna happen.

Take what you can get.
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