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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:21 am to
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19470 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:21 am to
Venezuela here we come.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:22 am to
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More can and probably will be printed.


Hyperinflation, yay!
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19470 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:24 am to
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Don’t be too hard on yourself. It’s no worse than every statistician in this thread who keeps moving the goal posts on when we become Italy.



I'm not trying to be that guy. That number is the high end and then there is the low end.

My point is we simply don't know.

And again, i would think/hope the administration is modeling both scenarios and making decisions based on those models.

Maybe they aren't but it's keeping me sane thinking so.

And trust me, I'm fully in the terrified camp of what this does to our economy. Not denying that at all but I'm not going to sit here and spout off like I know what the best path forward is and that the one we're on is wrong with some kind of certainty.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:24 am to
member when some people said "spain is the next Italy" and some MENSA posters here laughed?

I member

Coronavirus patients spotted lying on floor at overrun Madrid hospital
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:24 am to
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Not arguing this but you don't think they're weighing this and modeling it?

Maybe not with this administration but fahk i would hope they are.




Hypothetical, choose 1 of these extremes:

Extreme 1: A soulless robot is in charge and makes the most pragmatic decision, it re-opens everything, culls the herd of the weak and those that are "takers" (social security/medicare), and lets the economy explode in record fashion.

Extreme 2: Shut down everything and have MRE bread lines to attempt to save everyone from getting COVID19 and essentially dissolve the economy as we know it over the course of 4-6 months.

If given the choice, I choose #1

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:26 am to
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More can and probably will be printed.


Hello....stagflation.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:26 am to
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My point is we simply don't know.

That is the issue.
But people here are all of a sudden infectious disease experts that know everything.
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And trust me, I'm fully in the terrified camp of what this does to our economy.

I am as well. As a small business owner that has shut it down, even though I am listed as essential.
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 9:28 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:29 am to
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That is the issue.
But people here are all of a sudden infectious disease experts that know everything


Not panicking over the unknown is a positive thing.

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I am as well. As a small business owner that has shut it down, even though I am listed as essential.


What a terrible decision, if true. Like I said, not panicking over the unknown is a positive.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:32 am to
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Not panicking over the unknown is a positive thing.

So is not being dumb about it and doing what the actual experts are pleading with us to do.
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 9:33 am
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19470 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:32 am to
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If given the choice, I choose #1


I'm not necessarily against that either but but let's be realistic. Given current state, you simply can't just take that kind of purely "pragmatic" approach as a politician.

If nothing changes case wise in the next 2-3 weeks, with little stopping of the spread, they will likely change their strategy.

The economy isn't going to dissolve in that time span. You're a smart guy, you know this. There is government cheese to manage 2-3 weeks of slowdown. 100% in your camp if we're talking months but not weeks.

It will be super shitty, especially where we live, but a correction was likely coming anyway in some form.

And if anything, for those of us with cash (thank you bonus), its a big time buy opportunity and potentially lots of real estate downside.

I also say this with a job that is nearly 100% insulated from this unless there is a total catastrophe so I realize I have some bias here. Those in the service industry, real estate, finance etc obviously have a different perspective.
Posted by Douglas Quaid
Mars
Member since Mar 2010
4121 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:33 am to
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Hello....stagflation


That's the real concern.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:33 am to
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STLhog


Thank God there are still some level headed people here.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:33 am to
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So is not being dumb about it and doing what the actual experts are pleading with us to do


Voluntarily closing your small business that has been declared essential is the opposite of not being dumb.

In fact, the government is asking businesses like this to remain open so society can continue to function. Instead, you're apparently in your house with all of the cracks and crevices duct taped closed.

quote:

Thank God there are still some level headed people here.


This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 9:37 am
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:37 am to
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Voluntarily closing your small business that has declared essential is the opposite of not being dumb.

If the government or my biggest customer, a school board, calls with a critical need, I will respond. Its not that I am completely cut off, just not open.
I also have enough 99% alcohol to disinfect all tools and equipment before and after they are used.
Like STL, I may be a little biased. My company and family are safe because we planned ahead and have enough to get us through for quite some time
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 9:39 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:39 am to
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Like STL, I may be a little biased. My company and family are safe because we planned ahead and have enough to get us through for quite some time


So doomsday preppers are the one's telling us all the apocalypse has arrived?

There's a shocker.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88021 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:44 am to
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member when some people said "spain is the next Italy" and some MENSA posters here laughed?

The US is the next Italy
Washington is the next Italy
Louisiana is the next Italy
UK is the next Italy
France is the next Italy
Spain is the next Italy
Germany is the next Italy
New York is the next Italy


“I told y’all. Heh heh. I was right!!!1!”



Posted by Poker_hog
Member since Mar 2019
3651 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:50 am to
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Venezuela here we come


Yep. Corona has pushed us much further along the socialism path than Bernie ever would have.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40230 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:51 am to
Tiguar how are your patients doing? Medicine is hopeful??
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21548 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:52 am to
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Worldwide Flu deaths= 500,000
Worldwide Coronavirus deaths= 15,000


Not even close even on a bigger scale.


FLU>>>>Coronavirus



Now do WW COVID19 cases vs. Flu Cases

Then explain why COVID19 cases won't eventually match or surpass Flu cases.

Thanks
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84435 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:53 am to
By how many will it surpass flu cases
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