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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:49 am to RB10
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:49 am to RB10
My buddy that lives in NOLA said that his mom's friend that runs the ICU at their major hospital, and is a medical director at another hospital, said that Saturday was the worst day of his professional career. Patients coming in one after another all needing to be on ventilators.
But that is in NOLA. I don't think that that is the norm. I don't think that that is how has been here in Birmingham. Hopefully it stays that way.
why am I getting downvoted for this post? wtf
But that is in NOLA. I don't think that that is the norm. I don't think that that is how has been here in Birmingham. Hopefully it stays that way.
why am I getting downvoted for this post? wtf
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 9:53 am
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Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:51 am to SabiDojo
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US Surgeon General Jerome Adams says this week is going to get “bad” bc people aren’t practicing social distancing. Way to be specific.
We aren't even on official lockdown where I live yet, and people were already losing their minds.
My buddy who's the GM & pro at the country club where I live said they were having to turn people away yesterday. I played Thursday through Saturday and it the tee sheet was full every day except Thursday.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:51 am to RB10
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I have 3 friends who's wives are ER nurses in the area. No problems so far.
You obviously aren't in BR or New Orleans. I know the people (doctors) running 70%+ of the ERs down there. It's a big problem and its getting worse.
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You mean the major metropolitan areas that have hospitals get overrun by the flu in some seasons are also having problems with this virus?
The average hospitalization rate for the flu is around .05%
The hospitalization rate for COVID-19 is 15%
Even if we ignore the fact that COVID-19 is more contagious than the flu, if they were equal that means an infected population of 100,000 in a metropolitan area will send 50 flu patients to the hospital while that same population will send 15,000 patients to the hospital with COVID-19.
You clearly aren't a genius but even this math is easy to understand.
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 8:53 am
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:51 am to SabiDojo
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And they are wrong, routinely. The fatality rate was supposed to be near 4%. Where is it now?
Cool, hindsight guy here. REALLY logical to be making "bets" on a virus that has been around for 6 months and is currently ravaging another country.
Go put some money on it man, obviously no one else is, including the President.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:52 am to Antonio Moss
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The hospitalization rate for COVID-19 is 15%
How is that number even accurate when you’re only testing those with severe symptoms?
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:53 am to Antonio Moss
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The hospitalization rate for known and severe COVID-19 is 15%
I went ahead and fixed it for you. Until you people wrap your heads around this simple notion, you shouldn't be posting statistics.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:54 am to SabiDojo
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The hospitalization rate for COVID-19 is 15%
How is that number even accurate when you’re only testing those with severe symptoms?
Its been pretty consistent across all populations from countries that test a lot to countries that don't.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:54 am to Antonio Moss
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The hospitalization rate for COVID-19 is 15%
Of those being tested.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:55 am to RB10
What difference does it make?
People are literally telling you first hand that BR, NOLA, NYC and other large areas are completely overwhelmed and its getting worse.
Again, please explain how that isn't a problem?
People are literally telling you first hand that BR, NOLA, NYC and other large areas are completely overwhelmed and its getting worse.
Again, please explain how that isn't a problem?
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:55 am to Antonio Moss
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Its been pretty consistent across all populations from countries that test a lot to countries that don't.
Except for the perfect incubator that is the Diamond Princess.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:56 am to STLhog
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People are literally telling you first hand that BR, NOLA, NYC and other large areas are completely overwhelmed and its getting worse.
Again, please explain how that isn't a problem?
I've never said it wasn't a problem at all. I've said the reaction of, literally, shutting down the country is ridiculous.
You do grasp that both of these can be accurate, correct?
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:58 am to RB10
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Except for the perfect incubator that is the Diamond Princess.
Yep. Everyone has read that article.
I'm guessing the head of the CDC and the numerous viral experts that are advising the president didn't consider that at all in their current decision making.
Do you really not think the president and his team have weighed the positives and negatives of NOT shutting things down?
Hard to understand how you're typing with this kind of rectal cranial inversion.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:59 am to RB10
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It's absolutely ridiculous.
Why is it ridiculous? Do you not believe that viruses have wiped out species in the history of the world? We are just another species here. Nothing more, nothing less. There are things that we cannot defend against, whether you choose to believe it or not.
And my wife is sewing cloth masks for hospitals right now because this isn't anything to worry about and the hospitals are having zero issues.
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 9:01 am
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:59 am to RB10
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shutting down the country is ridiculous.
Based on what? One boat? You read a few articles? You know something the entire advisory team doesn't?
You think the President hasn't weighed the economy vs the potential hospital and health risk?
He has EVERYTHING to lose and is making this decision. How is that not indicative of the seriousness of not doing anything to you?
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 9:00 am
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:00 am to STLhog
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Hard to understand how you're typing with this kind of rectal cranial inversion.
It's more difficult to understand how you're typing while wearing a hazmat suit in your house.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:00 am to RB10
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I went ahead and fixed it for you. Until you people wrap your heads around this simple notion, you shouldn't be posting statistics.
It's for known cases, not known and severe, and it is still astronomically high even if you assume a significant percentage of people aren't tested because of mild symptoms.
Even if we assume that there are ten times that amount of infections that those confirmed by test, the hospitalization rate would still be 1.5% which 2.5 times that of the flu and more than enough to overrun the medical system.
It's not comparable to the flu - not even close.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:01 am to STLhog
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Based on what? One boat? You read a few articles? You know something the entire advisory team doesn't?
You think the President hasn't weighed the economy vs the potential hospital and health risk?
Based on common sense. Cutting off your arm to avoid getting an infection from a cut in your finger is illogical.
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 9:02 am
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:02 am to shawnlsu
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Why is it ridiculous? Do you not believe that viruses have wiped out species in the history of the world?
Jesus Christ. So now the virus that has killed less than 500 people in the United States is an extinction level event?
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:03 am to Antonio Moss
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It's for known cases, not known and severe, and it is still astronomically high even if you assume a significant percentage of people aren't tested because of mild symptoms.
Wrong. The majority of the cases being confirmed are those that require hospitalization.
Hospitalization = severe.
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 9:05 am
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:04 am to RB10
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Based on common sense. Cutting off your arm to avoid getting an infection from a cut in your finger is illogical.
I think I'll listen to the MDs on this one.
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