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Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:39 am to RB10
The problem is leaders/governments Succumbing to that overreaction. Instead of being rational, they are too scared of the backlash if anyone accuses them of not reacting fast enough or not acting at all.
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 10:40 am
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:40 am to RB10
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/discussion.
You told me to go back into my bubble. I'd say the same to you about the vaccuum that you're viewing this situation.
Lot's of and too much conjecture on both sides of this. I think we can all agree on this.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:41 am to rds dc
University of Washington continues to share a lot of testing data and there lab is now running below capacity.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:42 am to ell_13
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The problem is leaders/governments Succumbing to that overreaction. Instead of being rational, they are too scared of the backlash if anyone accuses them of not reacting fast enough or not acting at all.
No shite, I doubt anyone would reasonably debate this. The world we live in and the one we've lived in for eons.
But is that really a hill you want to go die on? It's not going to change.
Best hope is that more tests are done, we have better data points, some of the measures are effective and the government is able to supplement the productivity loss in the short term and re-visit things as we're more confident with the spread and hospitalization rates.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:42 am to STLhog
A part of me just wants to go lick a handrail in a public place to try and get this shite to get it over with 
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:43 am to rds dc
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University of Washington continues to share a lot of testing data and there lab is now running below capacity.
So they have an 8.1% infection rate among the medical professionals who are interacting with infected patients?
Good news there.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:44 am to STLhog
quote:I don’t get what you’re saying. We agree that the reaction doesn’t match the threat. That’s all I’m saying. Why can’t people be frustrated with that?
But is that really a hill you want to go die on? It's not going to change.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:47 am to RB10
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So they have an 8.1% infection rate among the medical professionals who are interacting with infected patients?
I don't think that is what it says at all. The tests can be from anyone, not just medical professionals.
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Greater than 90% of the testing volume is performed for patients of health care organizations in the state of Washington. We receive test orders from a variety of settings and locations including inpatients, outpatients, employee health, and community health screening settings.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:50 am to MadDogs
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I don't think that is what it says at all. The tests can be from anyone, not just medical professionals.
I can't really see the text clearly. I thought it said something about specific testing for medical professionals.
Either way, the overall positive tests of the 23,341 tested was 7.4%. That's still a good thing.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:52 am to STLhog
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losing a loved one or not being able to get the care you need for another injury isn't the same as losing your job, having your 401k slump etc.
In a 1:1 ratio, yes, a life saved is more important than one lost job. But the ethicality of all this gets a lot harder when we talk about 10+ jobs lost per one life saved. Where do you draw the line? Certainly one life saved is not worth a global economic crisis, right? If not, then how many lives do we have to save in order to justify such economic disaster? Not a fun discussion, but it's something that needs to be considered.
By the way, there will be deaths that result from millions of jobs being lost. There will be huge increases in homelessness, crime, starvation, divorce, children being born into extreme poverty... Can we confidently say that our current strategy is saving more lives than it's condemning? It feels like we're taking a "Well let's try this and see what happens" approach. We'll cross that great depression bridge when we get to it.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:52 am to TheCaterpillar
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A part of me just wants to go lick a handrail in a public place to try and get this shite to get it over with
My good friend who is getting a master's in Bio engineering at SDSU said the same while we were out there for a bachelor party 2 weekends ago.
"I'd pay someone $100 with COVID to cough in my mouth so I could get it, self quarantine and go about my business in two weeks"
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 10:55 am
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:54 am to ell_13
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hat’s all I’m saying. Why can’t people be frustrated with that?
Blowing hot air like its proven fact 2 weeks into this thing and getting riled up about why people are acting this way is what I'm talking about.
Most are saying we just don't know yet and there aren't enough data points.
Understanding the reaction and precautionary measures around that reality, to me, is reasonable.
Blowing a gasket about it being scientific fact that we're over reacting, does not seem reasonable to me.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:57 am to Neauxla_Tiger
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By the way, there will be deaths that result from millions of jobs being lost. There will be huge increases in homelessness, crime, starvation, divorce, children being born into extreme poverty... Can we confidently say that our current strategy is saving more lives than it's condemning? It feels like we're taking a "Well let's try this and see what happens" approach. We'll cross that great depression bridge when we get to it.
Talk about over reaction.
We're 2 weeks in. NO ONE KNOWS either the economic or the well being impacts at this point.
The economy is going to take a hit but its not going to grind to a hault. Again, the government will sure as shite drastically change its strategy to avoid that. Look at 2008.
Economically, 2008 was much worse than the position we're in currently.
If this goes for an entire month or two, I would say otherwise but 2-3 weeks of this is manageable economically.
There is drastic over reaction on both sides here. Pretending otherwise is unreasonable.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:58 am to rds dc
Can you summarize please? Pretty blurry and hard to read.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 11:00 am to STLhog
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If this goes for an entire month or two, I would say otherwise but 2-3 weeks of this is manageable economically.
I agree with this, but I think the bigger concern here is I can't see anything changing in 2-3 weeks that is going any of these restrictions. The numbers are only going to be worse. The end game is really hard to envision right now.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 11:00 am to STLhog
quote:There are precautionary measures and then there’s shutting down the majority of businesses and life as we know it. The very first question I asked over two weeks ago when the first things started being restricted: what is a reasonable reaction to this?
Understanding the reaction and precautionary measures around that reality, to me, is reasonable.
At the time, I joked that if we really wanted to slow/stop this thing, then just confine everyone to their homes for a month with no exception. Sure, people don’t die from Covid, but they’ll die from starvation... or poverty... or suicide... But hey. We beat the virus!
I said that jokingly, but we truly aren’t far from it at this point.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 11:01 am to MadDogs
Not going to argue that concern but its pure conjecture.
We can all do that either way until the end of time.
My point is throwing fingers around here saying YOURE WRONG is simply unproductive.
We can all do that either way until the end of time.
My point is throwing fingers around here saying YOURE WRONG is simply unproductive.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 11:02 am to STLhog
quote:“Hault” is a strong word, but most would call a 25% reduction in the economy in less than a month a disaster. It’s going to cause deaths. That’s a fact. It’s just a matter of how many.
The economy is going to take a hit but its not going to grind to a hault.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 11:04 am to STLhog
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Talk about over reaction.
We're 2 weeks in. NO ONE KNOWS either the economic or the well being impacts at this point.
I'm not reacting at all. I'm posing it for discussion. Just because "nobody knows" exactly where we're going to fall in a couple weeks isn't reason to blow off planning for future course of action.
And by the way, there's already untold number of layoffs and families getting crushed by this. But CNN doesn't keep a "Families' livelihoods going down the shitter" ticker. Go tell them this is overreaction.
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