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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 3/23/20 at 4:22 am to
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 4:22 am to
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firmly think the numbers in Louisiana simply look bad because of Mardi Gras. Most of the cases stem from that time frame but also calls into questions the actual incubation period of this thing because that was over a month ago.



Also many cities were shutting down and here's Bourbon Street national news packed elbow to elbow gearing up for St. Patty's Day.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 6:13 am to
Good AM sheep.
Posted by DollaChoppa
I Simp for ACC
Member since May 2008
84774 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 6:30 am to
Go back to sleep
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71163 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:03 am to
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After preventive measures were put in place in August 1918, the curve flattened out in February 1919.


I can definitely understand preventive measures being taken against a disease with a mortality rate as high as 20% compared to the COVID-19, whose mortality rate is hovering just over 1% here in the United States.

Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:17 am to
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Being inconvenienced is a bit different than the fear of the whole country losing their jobs

Thanks for proving my point.
Americans can, but won't do without their STUFF. Even if that means spreading a virus that humans have ZERO defenses for.
Posted by escatawpabuckeye
Member since Jan 2013
1043 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:26 am to
It’s only around 1% when everyone can get health care.

Look at early Wuhan or Italy. Hospitals overwhelmed - cfr much higher than 1 %
Posted by hehateme2285
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2007
5317 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:27 am to
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Thanks for proving my point.
Americans can, but won't do without their STUFF. Even if that means spreading a virus that humans have ZERO defenses for.


This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 7:31 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71163 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:35 am to
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Look at early Wuhan or Italy. Hospitals overwhelmed - cfr much higher than 1 %


I highly doubt the cfr is much higher than 1% in either China or Italy. There are likely hundreds of thousands of Italians who have the virus and are asymptomatic. For whatever reason, the virus only manifests symptoms in roughly half of those it infects. And even that's being generous.

When you account for all of the people in China and Italy who are running around with this virus that will never display symptoms, the true cfr is probably below 1%.
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 7:35 am
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:45 am to
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hehateme2285


Which part? The part that Americans can't do without their stuff, which has been proven time and time again on this board alone.
Or is it the part about the novel virus?
Use your words, Ricky Bobby.
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 7:53 am
Posted by escatawpabuckeye
Member since Jan 2013
1043 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:45 am to
Proof? Evidence?

Hope is not a strategy
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:02 am to
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Americans can, but won't do without their STUFF. Even if that means spreading a virus that humans have ZERO defenses for.


If we have ZERO defenses for this virus, everyone who contracted it would be dead.

Fact is 99% of people's immune systems fight it off, and about 80% of those do it without major symptoms.
Posted by reverendotis
the jawbone of an arse
Member since Nov 2007
4987 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:10 am to
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Proof? Evidence?


The Diamond Princess

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the ship became a natural data lab where nearly everyone was tested and few cases of infection were missed.


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That 0.5 percent is far less than the 3.4 percent of confirmed cases that end in death cited by the World Health Organization, but troubling nonetheless. The WHO’s number has come under fire because the true number of people infected with the virus worldwide is not known.


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As of February 20, tests of most of the 3,711 people aboard the Diamond Princess confirmed that 634, or 17 percent, had the virus; 328 of them did not have symptoms at the time of diagnosis. Of those with symptoms, the fatality ratio was 1.9 percent, Russell and colleagues calculate. Of all infected, that ratio was 0.91 percent. Those 70 and older were most vulnerable, with an overall fatality ratio of about 7.3 percent.

Extrapolating those numbers to China, the team estimates that 1.1 percent of symptomatic cases there turned deadly. Considering asymptomatic cases drops that ratio to about 0.5 percent in China, the team calculates.


Keep in mind, the "population" of the Diamond Princess was in no way representative of the population of Earth.

The cruise ship was full of people in the statistically vulnerable age groups which skews this less than alarming data to be even less alarming.



We now return to the societal pants shitting already in progress.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25907 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:11 am to
News showing 15328 global deaths
350536 confirmed cases globally that’s a hell of allot higher death rate than 1%.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:12 am to
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News showing 15328 global deaths
350536 confirmed cases globally that’s a hell of allot higher death rate than 1%.


Are you under the impression that every single case of the virus has been confirmed?
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:14 am to
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I can definitely understand preventive measures being taken against a disease with a mortality rate as high as 20% compared to the COVID-19, whose mortality rate is hovering just over 1% here in the United States.



Is more likely much lower than 1%. There are thousands of people around the world who were infected and had symptoms so minor they never were tested and never sought after medical care.


All you hear on the news is about severe cases or healthy people saying they were short of breath. They leave out all of the ones who associated Coronavirus with a common cold based on their experience.

Media brainwashing 101.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25907 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:14 am to
No I don’t assume that but of those confirmed the death rate can’t be ignored. Easily 10x deadlier than the common flu.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10728 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:16 am to
Anybody else notice the reporting on the Johns Hopkins does now not have the last tab on the charts?

Why is that? It gave a good summary of new cases per day as well as recoveries per day.

Not useful information as we hopefully begin to trend down?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:16 am to
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No I don’t assume that but of those confirmed the death rate can’t be ignored. Easily 10x deadlier than the common flu.


You don't assume that everyone has been tested, but you have no problem assuming that this virus is "Easily" 10x deadlier than the common flu?

That's pretty ignorant.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:17 am to
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No I don’t assume that but of those confirmed the death rate can’t be ignored. Easily 10x deadlier than the common flu.



Flu deaths in the US this year= 19,000
Coronavirus deaths in the US this year= 400



Not even close.

FLU>>>>>>>Coronavirus



This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 8:23 am
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25907 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:18 am to
We shall see... let’s have 100 million people contract this before jumping to those conclusions.
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