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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 1/27/20 at 7:40 pm to LSURussian
Posted on 1/27/20 at 7:40 pm to LSURussian
It would if it had a similar fatality rate.
Current WHO estimates has this virus already infecting in its first weeks 5x what SARS did globally in its entire run. To put that further in perspective: it is so early in the outbreak we don’t have a good mortality rate as the initial patients haven’t fully had a chance to die yet
Peak isn’t expected for another 3-4 months.
If it had SARS mortality (and again, no evidence right now to support that it does, I’m just speaking hypothetically), you would be looking easily at well over 100s of thousands of deaths easily given how much more infectious this pathogen is.
Current WHO estimates has this virus already infecting in its first weeks 5x what SARS did globally in its entire run. To put that further in perspective: it is so early in the outbreak we don’t have a good mortality rate as the initial patients haven’t fully had a chance to die yet
Peak isn’t expected for another 3-4 months.
If it had SARS mortality (and again, no evidence right now to support that it does, I’m just speaking hypothetically), you would be looking easily at well over 100s of thousands of deaths easily given how much more infectious this pathogen is.
This post was edited on 1/27/20 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 1/27/20 at 7:42 pm to slackster
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They're still of the opinion it's transported in droplets. Wash your hands, don't let people sneeze in your mouth, and you'll be fine.
Not worried about me, worried about my little man. Have avoided contact with him since returning
But good to know it’s fluid transfer and not airborne.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 7:44 pm to Lsut81
I’d guess it’s airborne if you sneeze.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 7:45 pm to Lsut81
Be aware fluid transfer can be absent mindedly brushing your nose/face a few minutes before touching a toy.
Not just spitting in your sons face.
But yes, hand sanitizer, avoid touching your own face (and spitting in your sons face) and it should be fine.
Not just spitting in your sons face.
But yes, hand sanitizer, avoid touching your own face (and spitting in your sons face) and it should be fine.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 7:46 pm to slackster
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When it's global. I don't mean that as a smartass - it's just that China still has like 98% of the cases and the vast majority of international cases come from a Wuhan contact.
That absolutely makes sense... just seems like the world might benefit more from an earlier designation.
The size of China should play a role, as well. If the same region in Europe was infected, we'd already be talking about multiple countries.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 7:47 pm to Bullfrog
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’d guess it’s airborne if you sneeze.
But that’s a fluid... I’m talking about just breathing on someone.
So if not sneezing, coughing, drooling, or peeing everywhere, then not really spreading it
Posted on 1/27/20 at 7:48 pm to MikeyFL
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The size of China should play a role, as well. If the same region in Europe was infected, we'd already be talking about multiple countries.
Yeah it definitely does.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 7:50 pm to Volvagia
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If it had SARS mortality (and again, no evidence right now to support that it does, I’m just speaking hypothetically), you would be looking easily at well over 100s of thousands of deaths easily given how much more infectious this pathogen is.
Yeah I've been reading a lot about SARS of late. The thing that strikes me is how severe nearly ever case was. There was no sloughing it off and going into work. If you got SARS, you were down for a while.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 7:51 pm to slackster
Baylor student tested negative. Just passing along if OP wanted to update.
This post was edited on 1/27/20 at 7:52 pm
Posted on 1/27/20 at 7:54 pm to slackster
I was in HK right around the time sars was going on. Can’t remember if it was right before or right after but it was still definitely in he news. Lots of people wearing masks and they had fever detectors at he airport and if you were running one they pulled you aside for further testing.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 7:55 pm to slackster
That was the most reassuring thing to me about the WHO press conference: that clinical presentation had a wide range of symptom severity as opposed to being uniformly severe like SARS.
That would be a bad thing in a bug with an asymptomatic infectious phase.
That would be a bad thing in a bug with an asymptomatic infectious phase.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 8:00 pm to Volvagia
Interesting thing I read today is that the lack of symptomatic children may suggest childhood vaccines are conferring secondary immunity.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 8:06 pm to Volvagia
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the initial patients haven’t fully had a chance to die yet
Sig worthy.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 8:08 pm to Volvagia
Agreed.
Just apprehensive still on whether or not its undergoing mutations. Hoping comments like “accelerating” “worsening” are a mix of not the perfect translation and the lab confirmed cases starting to catchup with the reality on the ground.
If they are signaling concerns that its mutating/adapting still, then we really don’t know how severe it could end up being.
For those that don’t know; Spanish Flu started off like typical influenza. More severely impacting very young and very old. Sick and elderly most at risk for mortality.
Then a second wave swept the planet. That one is why everyone alive has heard of Spanish Flu, over 100 years after the epidemic.
All of that because of a mutation between the first and second waves. Thats where the danger lies here.
Just apprehensive still on whether or not its undergoing mutations. Hoping comments like “accelerating” “worsening” are a mix of not the perfect translation and the lab confirmed cases starting to catchup with the reality on the ground.
If they are signaling concerns that its mutating/adapting still, then we really don’t know how severe it could end up being.
For those that don’t know; Spanish Flu started off like typical influenza. More severely impacting very young and very old. Sick and elderly most at risk for mortality.
Then a second wave swept the planet. That one is why everyone alive has heard of Spanish Flu, over 100 years after the epidemic.
All of that because of a mutation between the first and second waves. Thats where the danger lies here.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 8:09 pm to DavidTheGnome
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I was in HK
Has anyone on this Board not been to China?
Posted on 1/27/20 at 8:10 pm to RougeDawg
Me. No need to go, wouldn't turn down a trip at a later time though.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 8:10 pm to RougeDawg
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Has anyone on this Board not been to China?
Can't say I haven't been to China.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 8:10 pm to MrLSU
I went to Japan but they have a different slant on things
Posted on 1/27/20 at 8:11 pm to RougeDawg
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Has anyone on this Board not been to China?
Expand your horizons bro... I tell you one thing, being in mainland china will change your thinking about just how good things are here.
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