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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 3/21/20 at 11:41 am to TheCaterpillar
Posted on 3/21/20 at 11:41 am to TheCaterpillar
Another good point somebody posted is when we are looking at “new cases”, we are really looking at cases from about 12 days ago. Approximately 5 days to get the infection then about 7 days for most of the respiratory issues to worsen. Will be interesting as you continue tracking the numbers.
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Posted on 3/21/20 at 11:41 am to LSURussian
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Is it possible he had COVID-19 but because they weren't testing for it
I have the immune system of a hyena. I’ve not taken a day off sick from work since I started here in 1996. I’m not saying this to brag in the sense of “look at me, I go to work sick”, I’m saying that I’ve not gotten symptomatic sick to any significant degree in 24 years.
Between Christmas & New Years I (along with nearly everyone else at work) got sick with a respiratory illness with the EXACT same symptoms as C-19 : mild fever, persistent dry & unproductive cough, fatigue and a smattering of those with digestive symptoms as well.
It ran through us and was gone in a few weeks.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 11:43 am to TheCaterpillar
The antibody tests are coming that can diagnose covid 19 after the fact.
That will be interdasting.
That will be interdasting.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 11:43 am to Bullfrog
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The antibody tests are coming that can diagnose covid 19 after the fact.
That will be interdasting.
Very. I'd love everyone to get that test somehow
Posted on 3/21/20 at 11:48 am to Bullfrog
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The antibody tests are coming that can diagnose covid 19 after the fact.
That will be interdasting.
Yea, that will kind of be the "rest of the story" part of this and will be important when it comes to relaxing mitigation efforts. They could confirm the "lots of undetected cases" theory dropping the CFR into the acceptable risk range, allowing for a return to normal. If they don't do that, then they will be able to clear people for return to work. You'll have people that tested posted for COVID19 and recovered and people cleared by antibody testing available to resume normal activities.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:12 pm to rds dc
@BNODesk
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BREAKING: Italy reports 6,557 new cases of coronavirus and 793 new deaths, raising total to 53,578 cases and 4,825 dead
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BREAKING: Italy reports 6,557 new cases of coronavirus and 793 new deaths, raising total to 53,578 cases and 4,825 dead
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:15 pm to Bullfrog
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The antibody tests are coming that can diagnose covid 19 after the fact.
That will be interdasting.
They've already started using them in New York apparently.
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Those labmade molecules provided the basis for an ELISA test, in which antibodies in a sample of blood or plasma trigger a color change when they recognize a target protein—here an RBD or the spike protein. Initial tests of four blood samples from three confirmed COVID-19 patients and from 59 serum samples banked before the start of the outbreak showed that the test worked, as antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 bound to the test’s proteins. It showed positive results only for the COVID-19 patients and not for any of those controls.
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Krammer says he and his colleagues are already using their test in their New York City hospital to better understand how quickly COVID-19 patients start to develop antibodies to the virus. In the future, it could also help identify recovered patients who could then donate their SARS-CoV-2 antibody-rich serum to help treat critically ill patients. Another key application, Krammer says, would be to identify people who have developed likely immunity to the virus. They might be able to treat patients safely or take on other front-line jobs during the pandemic.
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Longer term antibody tests will also help researchers understand how long immunity to the virus lasts, a key issue for any future vaccine. For other coronaviruses, Krammer notes, immunity after an infection is strong for several months, but then begins to wane. Doctors in Germany are now testing COVID-19 patients from the small cluster of cases in Bavaria in January. One month after infection, antibody levels remained high, says Clemens Wendtner, an infectious disease specialist at the Schwabing Clinic.
Now for the bad news:
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Krammer’s team is eager to test as many blood samples as possible, but as the outbreak takes hold in New York City, it is forcing work in his laboratory to slow down. He has told lab members to avoid commuting. “Everyone who isn’t within walking or biking distance is staying home.”
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:16 pm to Burhead
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Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:17 pm to Burhead
Man, Italy having a 9% mortality rate so far is insane. What the frick.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:20 pm to TheCaterpillar
I really have no words for the daily #s out of Italy anymore. I just feel for all the people there having to deal with it and pray to god we never see anything like it here.
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Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:27 pm to Burhead
For a little balance to the crappy news out of Italy:
90-year-old woman who contracted coronavirus at Seattle senior care facility is now recovering
90-year-old woman who contracted coronavirus at Seattle senior care facility is now recovering
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Wood, who lived at Life Care Center, tested positive for coronavirus on March 6, her grand-daughter-in-law, Kate Neidigh writes in "Seattle Refined."
Neidigh, a fashion writer for the local publication, says this is not a "doom and gloom" story. Wood is a "true fighter," Neidigh writes, explaining her husband's grandmother moved to the care center in January after suffering a stroke.
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Neidigh wrote the doctors were able to slowly take her mom off oxygen, and although she still had a stuffy nose on Monday, they expected her to be symptom free very shortly. "She will still need to stay in isolation until she goes through their protocol for being listed as clear and recovered," Neidigh wrote. "If she continues on her current path, she could possibly be discharged to go home in approximately a week."
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:28 pm to Burhead
@HirokoTabuchi
Osaka Gov @hiroyoshimura
has made public an internal Health Ministry document on the rapid spread in coronavirus cases in Osaka & Hyogo. Doc contains dire projections: 3,300+ new cases, of which 200+ will be severe, by early April. Japan currently has just 1000 confirmed cases
An update on Japan's numbers.
Osaka Gov @hiroyoshimura
has made public an internal Health Ministry document on the rapid spread in coronavirus cases in Osaka & Hyogo. Doc contains dire projections: 3,300+ new cases, of which 200+ will be severe, by early April. Japan currently has just 1000 confirmed cases
An update on Japan's numbers.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:29 pm to TheCaterpillar
It’s still all old people dying really. They just have a ton of old people and nowhere to hide them. All their old people live with younger family members.
The death progression of this disease is also 18 days. Italy didn’t really take serious measures until about ten days ago...so they have another week until pre isolation cases run their course
The death progression of this disease is also 18 days. Italy didn’t really take serious measures until about ten days ago...so they have another week until pre isolation cases run their course
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:33 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Man, Italy having a 9% mortality rate so far is insane. What the frick.
UK 4k confirmed cases and nCFR 5.7%
Spain 25k confirmed cases and nCFR 5%
France 12k confirmed cases and nCFR 3.6%
Germany 21k confirmed cases and nCFR 0.4%
Europe needs to figure out what Germany is doing and copy that.
ETA: Added UK
This post was edited on 3/21/20 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:34 pm to reverendotis
Everyone except my wife has had similar. First my son, then my daughter, then me. Each lasts for about two-three weeks. But hard to believe it was Chinese virus, as symptoms never severe, just annoying.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:38 pm to HubbaBubba
Not sure if people have discussed this yet, but Medium has an interesting article on "hammering" the curve rather than flattening it:
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LINK
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Summary of the article: Strong coronavirus measures today should only last a few weeks, there shouldn’t be a big peak of infections afterwards, and it can all be done for a reasonable cost to society, saving millions of lives along the way. If we don’t take these measures, tens of millions will be infected, many will die, along with anybody else that requires intensive care, because the healthcare system will have collapsed.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:46 pm to rds dc
Germany has their shite together. Cleanest country I’ve ever been to. Those numbers make total sense.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:48 pm to GeauxTigers2020
A little over 100 people under the age of 60 have died, only 9 people under the age of 40, 0 under the age of 30.
It is crushing the older population.
It is crushing the older population.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:51 pm to GeauxTigers2020
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2 week national lockdown
Don't say that too loud here, you will get lambasted bc "that will never happen"
I think it's coming
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:55 pm to musick
Holy fricking shite.
Well it’s been a good run fellas.
Well it’s been a good run fellas.
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