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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:19 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:19 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Uh. I don’t think simply mentioning a family member opens that person up for insults. That’s just me though.
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 3:20 pm
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:20 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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Not saying it’s right but you shouldn’t post about things you don’t consider fair game
What that I am married and my wife happens to be Asian? That's not a big deal at all but him lying about it is wrong. FTR, she's been in the USA for 16 years. Long before we met when I was living in Cali and I have posted about that too. I just don't care for him lying about it trying to make shite personal because I caught him in another lie. That is taking something too far.
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:23 pm to lakeviewtiger
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Not sure if this has been posted but some new data from the CDC regarding stats on those needing hospitalization, ICU, etc.
Not sure if this has been posted but some new data from the CDC regarding stats on those needing hospitalization, ICU, etc.
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The CDC does not have complete data (such as on use of an ICU) for all counted cases, and therefore gave a range for its estimates. More than raw numbers, the percent of total cases gives a sense of the risk to different age groups. For instance, just 1.6% to 2.5% of 123 infected people 19 and under were admitted to hospitals; none needed intensive care and none has died.
But of the 144 cases in people 85 and older, 31% to 71% were hospitalized and 6.3% to 29% needed intensive care. The death rate in that age group was 10% to 27%.
In contrast, among people 20 to 44, 14% to 21% of 705 cases were admitted to hospitals and 2% to 4% to ICUs; 0.1% to 0.2% died.
The rates for middle-aged people fell between these extremes, while 29% to 44% of patients 65 to 74 were hospitalized and 8% to 19% needed intensive care; 2.7% to 4.9% in this age group died.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:24 pm to Burhead
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But of the 144 cases in people 85 and older, 31% to 71% were hospitalized and 6.3% to 29% needed intensive care. The death rate in that age group was 10% to 27%.
In contrast, among people 20 to 44, 14% to 21% of 705 cases were admitted to hospitals and 2% to 4% to ICUs; 0.1% to 0.2% died.
The rates for middle-aged people fell between these extremes, while 29% to 44% of patients 65 to 74 were hospitalized and 8% to 19% needed intensive care; 2.7% to 4.9% in this age group died.
Isn't this fairly comparable to Influenza numbers?
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:25 pm to stout
Duck Influenza must never be compared to mighty Corona
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:26 pm to stout
You’ve been on here long enough and are enough of a “character” that you should know that will happen when you regularly volunteer such information. That’s all
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:29 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
I have been on here long enough to know that I have never had anyone take it to that extreme and outright make something personal up to try and shut me up.
I get your point, though.
I get your point, though.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:35 pm to stout
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Isn't this fairly comparable to Influenza numbers?
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In contrast, among people 20 to 44, 14% to 21% of 705 cases were admitted to hospitals and 2% to 4% to ICUs; 0.1% to 0.2% died.
I would be utterly shocked if 14% to 21% of people 20 to 44 go to the hospital for the flu.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:44 pm to OldManRiver
What is the exact criteria for admitting these patients?
With the current pandemic and stigma around the virus, I suspect substantially more people will go in for further testing and evaluation rather then sit home
With the current pandemic and stigma around the virus, I suspect substantially more people will go in for further testing and evaluation rather then sit home
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:45 pm to Tigerbait357
It’s going to vary. Some hospitals that don’t have a lot of cases may just be putting them in ICUs for closer monitoring or isolation.
That’s why the number of ventilated is more important. Ventilators and people to run them are our limiting factor. Otherwise we can just call all doctors in to manage a very large amount of patients.
That’s why the number of ventilated is more important. Ventilators and people to run them are our limiting factor. Otherwise we can just call all doctors in to manage a very large amount of patients.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:47 pm to OldManRiver
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A small town in northern Italy has reportedly stopped all new coronavirus infections as part of a successful experiment.
Vò, near Venice, was one of the 11 towns and villages at the centre of the country's COVID-19 outbreak and began the trial at the start of the pandemic in Europe.
The experiment involved blanket testing of the town's entire population of 3,300 people and the imposition of very strict quarantine on those infected and their contacts.
Italian news reports suggest the town has not registered new cases since Friday. "Testing was vital, it has saved many lives," mayor Giuliano Martini was quoted by the country's media. Andrea Crisanti, an infections expert at Imperial College London, who has been involved in the village's efforts to combat the virus told Italy's broadcast media that continuous testing and retesting of the whole population made the difference.
Professor Crisanti said: "In Vo Euganeo we tested all the inhabitants, even those who were asymptomatic. "All citizens were put in isolation, so they could not transmit the disease.
"On the second testing that was carried out, we recorded a 90% drop in the rate of positive cases. And of all the ones who were positive in the second testing, eight people were asymptomatic. Professor Crisanti warned that that for every patient that shows symptoms for COVID-19 there were about 10 who don't.
"It is clear that you cannot test all Italians - but you can test people close to those who are asymptomatic. We must use asymptomatic cases as an alarm bell to widen our action," he said.
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Best news I’ve heard in a long time. More places should be replicating these types of studies so we can get accurate numbers and no when we need to take action and when we don’t.
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:47 pm to Burhead
Thanks.
I tuned into the Ochsner webex today...
Basically….if you think you are exposed but no symptoms…don’t freak out…call your primary care provider to discuss before rushing out for a test…you need to discuss with doc before test…also…stay home
If you have flu…stay home too
Don’t freak out when NOLA area cases spike in the next few days…that’s because of more testing being done
utilize ochsner virtual visit if covered by your insurance
over 80% of the cases are mild to no symptoms
a covid wellness kit will be available for employers to possibly offer testing and care in workplace
Smaller offices where people are allowed to spread out should not present a significant risk ….kind of like staying home
Also…staying home then going to hang out with friends defeats the purpose of you staying home …may as well go to office
More Ventilators are on the way
I tuned into the Ochsner webex today...
Basically….if you think you are exposed but no symptoms…don’t freak out…call your primary care provider to discuss before rushing out for a test…you need to discuss with doc before test…also…stay home
If you have flu…stay home too
Don’t freak out when NOLA area cases spike in the next few days…that’s because of more testing being done
utilize ochsner virtual visit if covered by your insurance
over 80% of the cases are mild to no symptoms
a covid wellness kit will be available for employers to possibly offer testing and care in workplace
Smaller offices where people are allowed to spread out should not present a significant risk ….kind of like staying home
Also…staying home then going to hang out with friends defeats the purpose of you staying home …may as well go to office
More Ventilators are on the way
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:48 pm to OldManRiver
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I would be utterly shocked if 14% to 21% of people 20 to 44 go to the hospital for the flu.
People are also in a panic right now so how many of those are a result of that panic that otherwise might stay home and self medicate?
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:48 pm to OldManRiver
Yes, this is fairly compatible to influenza numbers*
*Source: 1846 Harvard Journal of Medicine
*Source: 1846 Harvard Journal of Medicine
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:50 pm to BRIllini07
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:51 pm to stout
The bigger number is what’s the percentage of those people that have to be intubated? As was stated earlier not many younger people even go to the hospital for the flu.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 4:01 pm to Oates Mustache
Special kind of stupid on that board.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 4:03 pm to stout
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People are also in a panic right now so how many of those are a result of that panic that otherwise might stay home and self medicate?
I don't think hospitals are admitting young, otherwise healthy people who can fight it off on their own.
Yall need to get the talking points straight. One minute it's "of course everyone is testing positive, they are only testing the people who are bad off." Next minute it's "These numbers are inflated because people are panicking and getting hospitalized for the sniffles"
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