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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 3/18/20 at 4:06 pm to Oates Mustache
Posted on 3/18/20 at 4:06 pm to Oates Mustache
I continually hear more positive things about Chloroquine as a treatment.
Seems like reason for optimism, but I am no expert. For the medical folks on here, what do y'all think?
Seems like reason for optimism, but I am no expert. For the medical folks on here, what do y'all think?
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 4:08 pm to gumpinmizzou
Chloroquine and Remdisivir or Avagan need to start being used everywhere. Immediately.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 4:10 pm to Fun Bunch
I'd like to ask who the lover of the downvote button is??? 
Posted on 3/18/20 at 4:11 pm to stout
quote:
Isn't this fairly comparable to Influenza numbers?
The overall hospitalization rate for flu this year is at .06%
So no. Not even slightly comparable.
I mean seriously? You think 1 out of 5 people who get the flu between ages 20 and 45 need hospitalization?
Are your blinders on that firmly?
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 3/18/20 at 4:11 pm to Fun Bunch
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Fun Bunch
I tend to agree, but unsure if that's realistic, don't really know about supplies and things like that.
Are you in the medical field?
Posted on 3/18/20 at 4:13 pm to Oates Mustache
I hear you. It’s just the 100% are cured and he Facebook link in he initial post.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 4:14 pm to stout
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People are also in a panic right now so how many of those are a result of that panic that otherwise might stay home and self medicate?
Unless my terminology is off, hospitalization refers to being admitted.
Not being pandered to in the ER for a few hours before getting booted.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 4:16 pm to gumpinmizzou
I am not.
My understanding is that chloroquine is one of the most available, cheap, easily produced drug their is.
My understanding is that chloroquine is one of the most available, cheap, easily produced drug their is.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 4:18 pm to Fun Bunch
PUMP IT INTO THE WATER!!! ZOMG!
Posted on 3/18/20 at 4:20 pm to gumpinmizzou
Scruffy hates it
Posted on 3/18/20 at 4:21 pm to Paige
quote:
Scruffy hates it
Posted on 3/18/20 at 4:22 pm to Scruffy
people slanging forsythia up in hur
Posted on 3/18/20 at 4:23 pm to Oates Mustache
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I posted it for reference. There's a now published paper on Chloroquine from Stanford. Check the links.
Just looked over the paper
Couple of criticisms:
- 6 people out of the treatment group dropped out (3 went to ICU and 1 died). None dropped out of control group.
- the end point of the study was negative nasal swabs. This doesn’t tell us anything about reducing the risk of intubation or death.
Positives:
- The results show it was very effective at reducing the viral load in the nasal swabs.
- Hydroxychloroquine + Azithromycin was even more effective.
- the treatment group was older by an average of 15 years. Meaning if the ages were matched in the groups the effect may be even more dramatic.
Overall:
Positive news. We now need to look at end points of progression to ICU, need for intubation, and death.
If I was diagnosed and developed shortness of breath I would want hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin. Two safe, well studied medications.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 4:29 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Thanks for your thoughts 
And thanks to all who post useful info and studies. Much appreciated
And thanks to all who post useful info and studies. Much appreciated
Posted on 3/18/20 at 4:31 pm to gumpinmizzou
Can you get hydroxychloroquine OTC?
Posted on 3/18/20 at 4:33 pm to tigercraig
Oh god.
It’s safeish but there would be soooo many morons ODing on it if you could.
It’s safeish but there would be soooo many morons ODing on it if you could.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 4:34 pm to Volvagia
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Oh god.
It’s safeish but there would be soooo many morons ODing on it if you could.
Let's cut to the chase here. Can you snort it or do you need to mainline it?
Posted on 3/18/20 at 4:35 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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Professor Crisanti warned that that for every patient that shows symptoms for COVID-19 there were about 10 who don't.
Great info, but I have another takeaway... This is one more data point that says that COVID-19 is much more pervasive than we think it is.
If the number of cases of COVID-19 is actually 10 times what we think it is in the US, are we going to do more harm than good if this is basically on par with H1N1 for 80-90% of the population?
Posted on 3/18/20 at 4:36 pm to Fun Bunch
chloroquine is not available in the United States, or very limited availability, at this time. We all have to use Hydroxychloroquine for the time being
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 3/18/20 at 4:36 pm to CivilTiger83
quote:Absolutely.
If the number of cases of COVID-19 is actually 10 times what we think it is in the US, are we going to do more harm than good if this is basically on par with H1N1 for 80-90% of the population?
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