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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 1/27/20 at 5:55 am to
Posted by Asharad
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 5:55 am to




Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 6:15 am to
quote:

I have been to China several times. I can vouch that they eat everything. 


My parents lived there for years. To quote my Pops interpreter:

"If its back is facing the sun, then it is on the menu."
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 6:39 am to
CNN
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A nurse from the Central Hospital of Wuhan tells CNN at least a dozen medical staff from the facility are infected with the Wuhan coronavirus.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 7:26 am to
Thus far it seems highly contagious but its fatality rate is low. If it gets to something like SARS level (~11%) with that level of contagiousness (something like every contaminated person is giving it to ~2.6 people), that would be devastating.

Wuhan has just over 11 million people, at the SARS level that would be over a million dead in Wuhan alone. That's a mind-numbing number.
This post was edited on 1/27/20 at 7:28 am
Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 7:34 am to
quote:


Thus far it seems highly contagious but its fatality rate is low


This is why I'm really not too worried about it. If I am not mistaken, it's less fatal that the flu. It's only killing the very old, very young, and otherwise already compromised people. It sucks, but it's not like this is the plague. It's a bigger deal than "much ado about nothing", but doesn't warrant the insanity its getting.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 7:37 am to
Looks like for the most part it’ll be deadly for people with preexisting conditions or those that have chronic respiratory issues, especially older people.

I wonder if the staff got it before they had a good idea of its infection rate or after they had really known about it and took proper measures.
Posted by hubreb
Member since Nov 2008
2154 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 7:39 am to
So 3k out of 11mill.....so .0002% of population - sure you have more people with rare cancers than that
Posted by sp22
Member since Jan 2019
789 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 8:05 am to
Your decimal is a couple places off there
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 8:05 am to
Did they ever find out who released the man-made virus?
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46420 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 8:13 am to
quote:

quote:
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By air:
Over 60k flew to Beijing
50k flew to Guangzhou and Chengdu
7k to HK
6k to Macau
7.5k to Taiwan.

Other intl destinations include:

10k to Thailand
10k to Singapore
a bunch of them to japan.
3.6k to SFO
3k to Istanbul
2.7k to JFK


The Mayor said travel data indicates approximately 1.5 million left the country. Didn't give any break down of timeframe or destinations.



Got this back from the poster on r/cf

quote:

Train data is from Baidu migration map. Probably similar to those google map data trackers. Baidu is the largest search engine provider in China. Airport data is from some website called "flight manager". I guess this can easily be checked through flightaware.com if you want to give it a try.
Posted by Boat Motor Bandit
Member since Jun 2016
1891 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 8:24 am to
2 New confirmed case in California and Arizona brining US total to 5. AP reporting
This post was edited on 1/27/20 at 8:26 am
Posted by 4evrlsu
Death Valley
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 8:29 am to
Anyone see the oriental back-up dancers performing at the Grammy’s and think, wow..they may have just infected every major performer of our time.
Posted by yatesdog38
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 8:51 am to
It is at 4 percent which is still significant. We aren't talking about some long drawn out process like cancer. At this point there are astronomically higher chances that you are gonna die in Wuhan from this virus than cancer in the next 10 years if you are 50 years old.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 8:52 am to
quote:

It is at 4 percent which is still significant. We aren't talking about some long drawn out process like cancer. At this point there are astronomically higher chances that you are gonna die in Wuhan from this virus than cancer in the next 10 years if you are 50 years old.



I'm going to have to see that math.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 8:53 am to
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53552 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 8:59 am to
Laboratory confirmed cases do not mean all cases. Current estimates is that reported numbers are only ~5% of overall infected.

So change that 2.83% to something closer to 0.15%
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:02 am to
You can't count non-labratory cases because if they dead and haven't been to the doctor they wouldn't have been counted. They aren't gonna be doing autopsies from people that died and haven't been accounted for as having the virus. All we can go by is what they tell us.
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
2525 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:08 am to
quote:

Laboratory confirmed cases do not mean all cases. Current estimates is that reported numbers are only ~5% of overall infected.

So change that 2.83% to something closer to 0.15%


That is the unknown. It’s possible the fatality rate is in line with the flu. The problem I don’t see much reason to trust the CCP numbers on number of cases and number of deaths. One could be off or both could be.

The 5% number was a ballpark guess from a Harvard study last week. I wouldn’t take that as gospel.

China is used to the flu, so it seems odd for the CCP to react like they have to something that is basically the flu.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53552 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:09 am to
Ever heard of self selecting bias? This is a fricking cold on steroids. Nothing more. Most who become infected won’t show anything but mild symptoms much less anything worthy of medical treatment.


So to recap: we will go in hysterics because of how widely it’s spreading, the CCP is lying to us, and immediately accept twitter estimates of 100k infected.


But to inflate the mortality rate, will pretend none of that is happening.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53552 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:14 am to
quote:


The 5% number was a ballpark guess from a Harvard study last week. I wouldn’t take that as gospel.


And that’s fair. But even if the number is 20%, it’s still a fraction of the number he is putting out.

The point is he is throwing out an absurd number without bothering to even consider the big picture. We don’t know a lot, but the mortality rate is indisputably less than what he is saying.


For instance, we know now that the mortality rate if hospitalized is around 15%. For his number to be true, one out of every 5 people infected would require hospital admission.

And we know that’s not true.
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