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Posted on 3/16/20 at 2:35 pm to atrain5
yup he say nothing back to normal until July/Aug
why was I downvoted to shreds when I said that last week
why was I downvoted to shreds when I said that last week
Posted on 3/16/20 at 2:35 pm to DarthRebel
How much more likely are rich people to travel internationally and to associate with other people who travel internationally?
Posted on 3/16/20 at 2:36 pm to LNCHBOX
LNCHBOX, I responded to why the 0.5% CFR is a likely minimum as an average across the US.
I gave you data and information, and you did nothing but troll. Germany is testing very extensively. The Diamond Princess case was tested about as well as you can.
Yes as testing ramps up the CFR will look better. But using today's infections vs today's fatalities is misleading as fatalities lag infection by a couple weeks. When you consider the doubling time is five to six days for this outbreak, you should be cutting the number of cases at least in half.
The true CFR is only known where you have a closed system (Diamond Princess) or once the peak of the spread has sufficiently passed. And as health systems get inundated with cases the CFR will increase ala Wuhan and Italy. Age is obviously a huge factor in where different countries end up. That favors Germany and hurts Italy and China.
I gave you data and information, and you did nothing but troll. Germany is testing very extensively. The Diamond Princess case was tested about as well as you can.
Yes as testing ramps up the CFR will look better. But using today's infections vs today's fatalities is misleading as fatalities lag infection by a couple weeks. When you consider the doubling time is five to six days for this outbreak, you should be cutting the number of cases at least in half.
The true CFR is only known where you have a closed system (Diamond Princess) or once the peak of the spread has sufficiently passed. And as health systems get inundated with cases the CFR will increase ala Wuhan and Italy. Age is obviously a huge factor in where different countries end up. That favors Germany and hurts Italy and China.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 2:37 pm to Mr Perfect
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why was I downvoted to shreds when I said that last wee
There are subreddits for blowing yourself fyi
Posted on 3/16/20 at 2:37 pm to The Boat
Awww shite. My good friend's wife just got a presumptive positive test for the WuFlu in Baton Rouge. Would be one of the first in EBR. Waiting on lab results.
Haven't seen him in a few weeks.
Haven't seen him in a few weeks.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 2:37 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:I’ve been in this thread a week.
We have been beating the same dead horse for over a month and you still don’t get it.
And the response is simple. Quarantine the old folks and let everyone go about their lives as they normally would making sure they know they need to stay home when sick and wash often. Boom. CFR down. Hospitals stay afloat. Economy and businesses continue on. But Nooooooooooooooo. We gotta keep spiraling down to martial law, curfews, and being locked in our homes because America can’t tolerate a few thousand people dying from a virus. Except we do it every damn year.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 2:38 pm to Kingpenm3
Why is the CDC director (Redfield) never at these White House press conferences or taking an active role it seems?
Dr Fauci who is director of NIAID seems to be the face of the medical side of things and doing most of the speaking, interviews etc. Not that I have a problem with him as he seems to be a pretty straight shooter. Just wondering why CDC is taking a back seat. Is it because they fricked things up the last couple months? I only started watching these press conferences a few days ago.
Dr Fauci who is director of NIAID seems to be the face of the medical side of things and doing most of the speaking, interviews etc. Not that I have a problem with him as he seems to be a pretty straight shooter. Just wondering why CDC is taking a back seat. Is it because they fricked things up the last couple months? I only started watching these press conferences a few days ago.
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 3/16/20 at 2:38 pm to CivilTiger83
quote:
and you did nothing but troll.
It's trolling to point out you mixed up max and min in an effort to fear momger? Sure thing buddy
Posted on 3/16/20 at 2:39 pm to gpburdell
Haven't seen a lot of activity in Russia yet. Wonder when that picks up. Would think it'd be a likely hotspot given the big populations centers and climate.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 2:40 pm to gpburdell
Trump says this could last until July or August. I don't how we're going to handle this. Not sure how working class Americans, particularly those who don't work where they can get paid sick leave, will make it.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 2:40 pm to gpburdell
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Why is the CDC director (Redfield) never at these White House press conferences or taking an active role it seems?
Probably because Redfield has looked completely incompetent anytime he has spoken. Take his appearance in front of the House committee last week as a prime example.
I can't imagine he won't be canned when this is done. Just a bad look to fire him in the middle of all of this. Actually, he will probably just resign to save some face.
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 3/16/20 at 2:40 pm to The Boat
quote:
Flu Deaths Matter
Don't you have chickens to feed or a cousin to frick or something?
Posted on 3/16/20 at 2:42 pm to ell_13
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And the response is simple. Quarantine the old folks and let everyone go about their lives as they normally would making sure they know they need to stay home when sick and wash often. Boom. CFR down. Hospitals stay afloat. Economy and businesses continue on. But Nooooooooooooooo. We gotta keep spiraling down to martial law, curfews, and being locked in our homes because America can’t tolerate a few thousand people dying from a virus. Except we do it every damn year.
That will probably be the answer once we get through this initial wave. What you posted above will likely be the “new normal”. With large gatherings still prohibited.
The problem is we don’t know what this first wave is going to be like and no one wants to be the next Wuhan or Lombardy. It’s easy to be an armchair quarterback.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 2:43 pm to gpburdell
If you listened to Trump’s 1st press conference, he said he’d been working with the CEOs of the large private labs and other business for 10 days. Seems like to worked around the CDC to get more tests made and distributed. He’s continued with this partnership between government and private business since then. I think I decided to let them continue to do their thing but to work around them for faster response.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 2:44 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
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Not sure how working class Americans, particularly those who don't work where they can get paid sick leave, will make it.
pray trump listens to Romney stimulus plan
Posted on 3/16/20 at 2:44 pm to ell_13
quote:places that are densely populated or visited have a novel virus outbreak on their hands.
The virus itself has impacted us how?
quote:The reaction of being reasonable was not heeded. Forcing more govt influence.
The reaction
If people would have not been idiots and just been a touch cautious, we would be fine. The group that thumbed their noses at the situation and claimed how foolish it was and went about their business out of spite...they are to blame. Not those that are just a little cautious. You are correct, but the root cause you have is not correct.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 2:44 pm to ell_13
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America can’t tolerate a few thousand people dying from a virus.
This is beyond ignorant and selfish. Frick you.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 2:44 pm to LSUGrrrl
quote:I sweat excellence, was trying to do you a favor.
I’m just grossed out by all the people who apparently weren’t sanitizing machines before using them before
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