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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:13 am to tigerfoot
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:13 am to tigerfoot
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refuse to believe that a low estimate of hospital beds in NYC would be that low.
shite, a quick google shows that the top 5 alone have damn near 8k.
What is the availability of beds?
If the bed is already occupied theres going to be issues. Thats the point.
There might be 10k beds but if 3 are free you end up with that graph.
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Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:15 am to Antonio Moss
Sure. And it also could be 10 patients aged 45-48 and 1 aged 28 and the 28 year old had mild symptoms and the 6 ICU patients were all 46+ and obese.
Without individual data a number set like that can be manipulated pretty easily. But, no matter how you slice it confirms what’s already been hinted at other places, and that’s the under 50 crowd isn’t as safe as they think. Looks like 20 is the cut off point to truly be borderline immune
Without individual data a number set like that can be manipulated pretty easily. But, no matter how you slice it confirms what’s already been hinted at other places, and that’s the under 50 crowd isn’t as safe as they think. Looks like 20 is the cut off point to truly be borderline immune
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:16 am to Jon Ham
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LINK
That guy is a joke.
He says if we don't act, "The economy will be ruined" but then goes on a couple paragraphs later to say "the economy will be wrecked" if we implement quarantine measures similar to Italy and Spain. By that logic, we might as well wreck the economy in the least harmful way possible, which IMO would be to keep things open and not completely starve small business owners.
The entire article is also washed with assumptions and "facts" such as # of hospital beds that he provides no source for.
Total clickbait, some nobody trying to make a name for himself.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:16 am to NYNolaguy1
appreciate you being facts based dude. really do. thank you
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:16 am to BallsEleven
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That graph is complete and utter bull shite. If you think NYC only has 3k beds at most, idk what to tell you.
Are they talking about ICU beds?
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:17 am to cameronml
Mortality rate has dropped below 2% in the United States. Expect this trend to continue as more testing is done en masse.
In December we will be speaking of this as one of the biggest overreactions to a disease in the history of the planet.
In December we will be speaking of this as one of the biggest overreactions to a disease in the history of the planet.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:18 am to WaWaWeeWa
Did they put the Six in icu for observation or did their condition warrant that? Not being ugly but just curious.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:21 am to tiger91
Hospitals don't put people in ICU beds for shits and giggles.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:23 am to RollTide1987
Maybe. We haven’t hit the hospital breaking point yet. It was low in Italy and Spain too until it wasn’t. The high mortality rate comes from basically denying care to elderly patients bc you’re so swamped you’re ICU’s are completely filled with younger patients
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:26 am to tigerfan88
quote:Why are you making the assumption the virus got to Spain and Italy before the US?
Maybe. We haven’t hit the hospital breaking point yet. It was low in Italy and Spain too until it wasn’t. The high mortality rate comes from basically denying care to elderly patients bc you’re so swamped you’re ICU’s are completely filled with younger patients
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:29 am to RollTide1987
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Mortality rate has dropped below 2% in the United States. Expect this trend to continue as more testing is done en masse.
2% with most of the cases still unresolved. The average day people die is day 18.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:29 am to RollTide1987
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In December we will be speaking of this as one of the biggest overreactions to a disease in the history of the planet.
Preventative measures taken
Preventative measures work
“WE OVERREACTED!”
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:29 am to SaintsandTigers
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Why are you making the assumption the virus got to Spain and Italy before the US?
Thats part of it, the other part is quantity.
How many people had it, and when did they get here.
Are there more people from Wuhan going to Italy or the US?
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:30 am to tigerfan88
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The high mortality rate comes from basically denying care to elderly patients bc you’re so swamped you’re ICU’s are completely filled with younger patients
I think this is where American exceptionalism comes into play. If I get the virus, I'm not going to go into the ER unless I have severe symptoms such as labored breathing. I'm young, I have less than a .2% chance of succumbing to the disease. I'll give my bed to someone older who actually is in danger of losing their life.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:34 am to RollTide1987
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Mortality rate has dropped below 2% in the United States. Expect this trend to continue as more testing is done en masse.
In December we will be speaking of this as one of the biggest overreactions to a disease in the history of the planet.
Can you tell us the case fatality rate of the Spanish Flu?
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:35 am to RollTide1987
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think this is where American exceptionalism comes into play. If I get the virus, I'm not going to go into the ER unless I have severe symptoms such as labored breathing. I'm young, I have less than a .2% chance of succumbing to the disease. I'll give my bed to someone older who actually is in danger of losing their life.
People are in denial right now.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:37 am to WaWaWeeWa
Reading the link, it seems like they are saying 1200-3000 beds period.
I thought that seems low but I found a different article that said de Blasio stated there were 1,200 beds available for virus patients.
I found a website that showed about 23,000+ acute care bed in NYC as of 2015 so if that were the case, 20,000 beds would be occupied?? Just doesn't make sense but I'm not exactly an expert in the field.
I thought that seems low but I found a different article that said de Blasio stated there were 1,200 beds available for virus patients.
I found a website that showed about 23,000+ acute care bed in NYC as of 2015 so if that were the case, 20,000 beds would be occupied?? Just doesn't make sense but I'm not exactly an expert in the field.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:37 am to rds dc
Total cases worldwide surpass China. However, does anyone really believe that China has only generated 31 new cases in the past two days?
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:37 am to SaintsandTigers
In terms of first case it didn’t. But Italy developed a hot spot well before we did thanks to the return of chinese workers from Chinese New Year. And they all work in Milan. It’s the hot spots that cause the overwhelming.
We may never develop hot spots of that caliber. But the numbers are escalating pretty rapidly in places like Seattle, New York, New Orleans, San Fran, Atlanta. Numbers that seem to indicate hot spots are developing.
We’ll know in about two weeks
We may never develop hot spots of that caliber. But the numbers are escalating pretty rapidly in places like Seattle, New York, New Orleans, San Fran, Atlanta. Numbers that seem to indicate hot spots are developing.
We’ll know in about two weeks
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:39 am to tgr4ever
You disagree with his post????
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