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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:40 am to tigerfan88
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:40 am to tigerfan88
We are Americans. Let’s not forget that. We have overcome huge challenges before
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Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:42 am to RollTide1987
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In December we will be speaking of this as one of the biggest overreactions to a disease in the history of the planet.
I certainly hope that’s true, but December’s still 8 months away. I don’t think you can just look at a dropping case fatality rate (something most people agreed would happen as testing began to expand) and use that as a basis for an ironclad declaration of “massive overreaction”. I mean, even if this infection is 99.9% survivable, don’t you think having a larger-than-normal proportion of the adult population sick and out of commission at the same time could be enough to cause a pretty significant societal clusterfrick?
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 11:44 am
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:44 am to DeepBlueSea
How the frick does This thread not have a sticky? Has anyone checked on chicken? Half the world is shutting down and this will be the longest thread in tigerdroppings history
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:44 am to RollTide1987
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I think this is where American exceptionalism comes into play. If I get the virus, I'm not going to go into the ER unless I have severe symptoms
I take it you haven’t ever worked in an ED? You, sir, are in the minority, unfortunately.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:44 am to RollTide1987
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I'm young, I have less than a .2% chance of succumbing to the disease. I'll give my bed to someone older who actually is in danger of losing their life.
The real plague in America is the inability to understand simple statistics. There is a .2-.5% fatality rate for younger people WHEN THERE IS AVAILABILITY OF SIGNIFICANT MEDICAL INTERVENTION.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:44 am to RollTide1987
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I think this is where American exceptionalism comes into play.
Jesus Christ. Give me a break. Americans are the most whiny assed entitled culture in the world. Maybe you're the exception but soccer mom sure as frick isn't.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:45 am to CivilTiger83
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Can you tell us the case fatality rate of the Spanish Flu?
Depends on what number you believe. Some people think as many as 100 million died of the Spanish Flu out of 500 million total cases. That's a mortality rate of 20% if accurate.
The commonly accepted number, however, is 40 million deaths with about 300 million infected. Which is a mortality rate of 13%.
Either way you slice it...way higher than that of Wuhan Flu.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:46 am to LSU1018
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The average day people die is day 18.
I've been looking for that, do you have a link? Is it day 18 from onset of symptoms, confirmed diagnosis, exposure?
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:46 am to WaWaWeeWa
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How the frick does This thread not have a sticky? Has anyone checked on chicken? Half the world is shutting down and this will be the longest thread in tigerdroppings history
I asked when I requested the title change and was told it wasn’t warranted. And no, the Q thread is still chugging along.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:46 am to BallsEleven
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I found a website that showed about 23,000+ acute care bed in NYC as of 2015 so if that were the case, 20,000 beds would be occupied?? Just doesn't make sense but I'm not exactly an expert in the field.
Out of 20 million people in the NYC metro area you having a hard time crasping that 20k of them are in ICU?
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:46 am to CivilTiger83
In case you needed help with it, the case fatality rate of the Spanish Flu was 2-3%. And it had devastating consequences. The one main positive difference is that the Spanish Flu was more lethal for younger people.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:49 am to LSU1018
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Mortality rate has dropped below 2% in the United States. Expect this trend to continue as more testing is done en masse.
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2% with most of the cases still unresolved. The average day people die is day 18.
Just a clarification, what they are calculating is case fatality rate, or to be more specific, naive case fatality rate (nCFR). Mortality rate is calculated using the number of people in an at risk population (US, Women, Infants, etc) and nCFR is calculated using the number of cases. Then modeling can be used to calculate a corrected CFR (tries to account for people that are sick today but might die in the future) and an infection fatality rate (tries to account for people that are sick today that we don't know about).
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:50 am to frankthetank
Yankeeundercover is at it again, trying to censor coronavirus threads: LINK
Dude has been adamant about suppressing corona related news here.
Dude has been adamant about suppressing corona related news here.
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 11:51 am
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:53 am to Parmen
Scruffy seconds yankee’s thread.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:54 am to rds dc
Estimated daily testing capacity continues to rise.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:59 am to VABuckeye
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Jesus Christ. Give me a break. Americans are the most whiny assed entitled culture in the world.
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:59 am to DeepBlueSea
quote:Well, we are shutting everything down anyway. What's the difference?
I mean, even if this infection is 99.9% survivable, don’t you think having a larger-than-normal proportion of the adult population sick and out of commission at the same time could be enough to cause a pretty significant societal clusterfrick?
Posted on 3/15/20 at 12:05 pm to Parmen
HAvent spoken with him yet today, but a neighbor is a PA at a local hospital here in SC. Was fully on the train that this is overblown and is just a flu, and not a big deal. Went to work last night, no confirmed cases, but came home and told his wife that this was a big deal, we need to close schools and stay inside for the most part.
Gonna chat with him when he wakes up to see what changed his mind
Gonna chat with him when he wakes up to see what changed his mind
Posted on 3/15/20 at 12:05 pm to RollTide1987
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Depends on what number you believe. Some people think as many as 100 million died of the Spanish Flu out of 500 million total cases. That's a mortality rate of 20% if accurate.
The commonly accepted number, however, is 40 million deaths with about 300 million infected. Which is a mortality rate of 13%.
Either way you slice it...way higher than that of Wuhan Flu.
Incorrect. I posted it a couple hundred pages ago, but the case fatality rate of the Spanish Flu was 2.5%.
Source - Stanford website summary on the Spanish Flu. LINK
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