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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 3/14/20 at 11:15 am to
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 11:15 am to
This still depends on where/how it it’s.

It caught SK off guard in a massive church with younger attendees (look at the #of people in their 20’s that have it there).

If we can keep this out of older communities, we’ll look more like SK, if not, then who knows?

Italy and SK have also largely kept it to singular regions. With New Orleans now popping off we’re building hot spots this thing on multiple coasts.

It also can’t be ignored that mutations and multiple strains One of the explanations from China was that the version circulating around non-Wuhan China was the less deadly strain.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 11:16 am to
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That percentage can be affected by demographics. A country with many more older people will have a higher death rate generally. It just depends on where the clusters pop up. Like that nursing home in Washington which made up 16 of the first 22 American deaths.



He seems to think that's irrelevant
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 11:16 am to
Dear Facebook,
It would be really cool to get back to the thoughtful insights and links to breaking stories than the argumentative trash that this thread has become. Glad to see WaWa and Vol still hanging in there
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 11:17 am to
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Why is the percentage not the same in every country?


Because of a lot of different factors. But in the Italy and SK data sets it’s mainly because most of the patients in the Italy data are old and most in the SK data are young and female.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88021 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 11:18 am to
I’d like to see the average age of the males vs females data. If the average comes out to men being 5-8 years higher, that could be explain the death rate difference. My point is there’s certainly proof that age plays a factor; I’m not sold that gender does yet.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 11:18 am to
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Because of a lot of different factors.


Like demos and density
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 11:19 am to
Density doesn’t affect rate of death just rate of transfer.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21544 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 11:20 am to
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NEW U.S. TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS ON BRITAIN, IRELAND LIKELY TO GO INTO EFFECT ON MONDAY NIGHT - U.S. AND AIRLINE OFFICIALS
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 11:20 am to
Thank you. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 11:21 am to
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The Spanish fricking flu didn’t get to half of that. Just 27%. My god man chill out.


Lok. I have no clue where this will end up in the population base but your Spanish Flu comparison is retarded.

They didn't have the means of travel or the population density that we have and it still spread like wildfire.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 11:21 am to
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Density doesn’t affect rate of death just rate of transfer.


Unless of course lower density keeps it from ever getting to high risk demos.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 11:21 am to
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Thank you. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.



You just aren't great at critical thinking.

Remember that you said it had little to nothing to do with the deaths. That is absurd
This post was edited on 3/14/20 at 11:22 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55601 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 11:25 am to
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I’m going off published data from models. They are predicting 160 to 210 million people could become infected in 1 year if it isn’t slowed down at 1%. These are the experts in the field, you’re so emotional and dramatic.

You are misrepresenting this. These are NOT predictive models you are citing; they are projective models. For example, I have a spreadsheet that projects what my retirement account will be worth 20 years from now. I have a cell with an assumed growth rate. If I put 8% in that cell we could call it predictive, because that rate has some historical merit. But if I put 20% in my spreadsheet it becomes a projection, and not a very useful one.

The models showing 160 million Americans infected are just like that. They built models and put a wide variety of factors in many different runs. One of the extremely improbable ones returned 160 million, and that’s the one you are citing. That’s silly at best, and more likely tendentious.

This is just like the stupid global warming models that the media swooned over back in the 1990’s. They put a carbon forcing temperature change of 6 degrees C into their stupid models, and they returned ridiculous projections that the media ran with. The actual temperatures always proved embarrassing to alarmists, but it was all because they stuck an absurdly high carbon forcing temperature change into their models.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 11:25 am to
And people laughed at preppers...

Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 11:25 am to
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Remember that you said it had little to nothing to do with the deaths. That is absurd


The mortality RATE. Not total number of deaths

I’m going to tell you something that is really going to blow your mind. Are you ready for this? Italy is doing a better job than South Korea. I know I won’t ever to be able to explain it to you but I just want you to think about that.


Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88021 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 11:28 am to
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They didn't have the means of travel or the population density that we have and it still spread like wildfire.
Yeah. The world war kept people away from each other.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
89137 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 11:28 am to
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The mortality RATE. Not total number of deaths


Your condescension is hilarious. Tell me something oh genius of definitions, will the rate remain constant if the number of deaths changes with no other changes?
Posted by Burhead
Member since Dec 2014
2100 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 11:31 am to
LINK

Have we discussed the post-recovery of people with OVID-19? Early data out of Hong Kong says that out of 12 people 2-3 suffered a 20-30% drop in lung capacity.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 11:33 am to
I’m going to answer you question so you don’t accuse me of a avoiding it: No, the rate will change.

But I think we should end this because we can’t agree on basic math
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 11:33 am to
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Have we discussed the post-recovery of people with OVID-19? Early data out of Hong Kong says that out of 12 people 2-3 suffered a 20-30% drop in lung capacity.


We did a while back in the thread. If a doctor can't tell me if it is 2 or 3 out of a group of 12, I don't trust much else they say.
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