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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 1/25/20 at 5:02 pm to
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 1/25/20 at 5:02 pm to
What’s the “R naught”?

Thanks Dr. Winslet. Lol
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11821 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 5:10 pm to
I believe that is the same study the dramatic Dr. on Twitter was referencing.
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 1/25/20 at 5:10 pm to
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I understand the point, but this being essentially the flu doesn't align with the videos we've seen on Twitter which show a massive influx of people at hospitals


Since this blew up, it's understandable hospitals would be overwhelmed. Imagine if the US said they found a new virus in NYC - every cough would have people going to the emergency room.

Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/25/20 at 5:13 pm to
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Imagine if the US said they found a new virus in NYC - every cough would have people going to the emergency room.


I would imagine this to not be the case unless people wanted to get sick.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
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Posted on 1/25/20 at 5:21 pm to
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NEW: Epicenter of coronavirus outbreak reports 292 new cases and 11 new deaths, raising death toll to 54
Posted by Burhead
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Posted on 1/25/20 at 5:24 pm to
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NEW: Epicenter of coronavirus outbreak reports 292 new cases and 11 new deaths, raising death toll to 54


From the same source:

Only 85 out of 1,052 confirmed coronavirus patients in Hubei province has been released from hospital. At least 129 patients are in serious to critical condition.
Posted by TomTheGhost
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 1/25/20 at 5:25 pm to
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NEW: Epicenter of coronavirus outbreak reports 292 new cases and 11 new deaths, raising death toll to 54


So this is from last night? What was numbers yesterday?
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/25/20 at 5:26 pm to
Roughly 400 new cases and 15 deaths
Posted by Burhead
Member since Dec 2014
2100 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 5:27 pm to
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So this is from last night? What was numbers yesterday?


Deaths were reported at 43, can't remember reported new cases though.
Posted by biscuitsngravy
Tejas, north America
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/25/20 at 5:28 pm to
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Since this blew up, it's understandable hospitals would be overwhelmed. Imagine if the US said they found a new virus in NYC - every cough would have people going to the emergency room


So true. It's unbelievable how quickly panic can set in and society unravel. Have seen it here in Texas a couple times last few years. Even a hint of an issue spreads like wild with store shelves emptied, generators sold and general panic spreading. If something like this occured in Chicago or new york definitely would be hysteria.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/25/20 at 5:31 pm to
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this suggests that the majority of infections may be mild and
insufficiently serious for individuals to seek treatment. 
This is what I find most interesting. It seems to me that the disease is pretty contagious, but only deadly for those who have a weak immune system. For the majority of the population it is like the flu, or just a bad cold.
This post was edited on 1/25/20 at 5:34 pm
Posted by UnitedFruitCompany
Bay Area
Member since Nov 2018
4094 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 5:32 pm to
Ok sweet! That makes more sense.
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 5:50 pm to
1st writer's twitter - should have links IIRC

also this from last night:
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With lots of uncertainty in both case data and model uncertainty, R0 estimates will be changing rapidly. Important to update and monitor. We've updated our estimates with case data through 22 Jan. New estimated R0 of 2.5 95% CI 2.4, 2.6. Paper to be updated asap. #coronvirus

Posted by PeteRose
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/25/20 at 5:52 pm to
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years. Even a hint of an issue spreads like wild with store shelves emptied, generators sold and general panic spreading. If something like this occured in Chicago or new york definitely would be hysteria.


Yup, polite/social face off, survival face on.
Posted by makinskrilla
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jun 2009
9754 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 5:52 pm to
I’m not going to link, you can find it on reddit if you want. Videos coming out of Wuhan pleading to get information out to west. It Chinese but with English subtitles. Basically it is much worse than being reported. The healthcare system can dx but doesn’t treat just sends people home. At least one clinic closed due to infected staff. This is not hard to find on reddit. It appears legit. Voicemail of inconsolable healthcare workers stating 90,000 cases. They don’t even have the supplies to test for it now, it ran out. The are begging people to stay inside and not eat out during the Chinese New Year. Extremely disturbing. I hope it is all wrong and a hoax but it looks legit to me. If you look on reddit is isn’t hard to find. I’m not going to link. I need a break from the internet.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 5:59 pm to
Here is a link with most of the videos. The Chinese govt. is removing them left and right so they are being saved and archived.


Video of guy in Wuhan (turn captions on for translation)
This post was edited on 1/25/20 at 8:13 pm
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
2525 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 6:02 pm to
Save it for another board mainskrilla. Many on here will say they must be lying.
Posted by makinskrilla
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jun 2009
9754 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 6:08 pm to
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Many on here will say they must be lying.


They don’t know the Chinese govt. these people face imprisonment or worse for making these videos. Do you think they would risk that to make a hoax?

Not likely. I pray China comes to its senses and allows medical professionals from around the world come in to help, because damn the media reports, the situation is out of control.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
47029 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 6:17 pm to
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UPDATE: First death from new coronavirus in Shanghai, raising death toll to 55
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 1/25/20 at 6:26 pm to
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They don’t know the Chinese govt. these people face imprisonment or worse for making these videos. Do you think they would risk that to make a hoax?


I think it is more likely the government is lying than a collection of local medical professionals with more to lose.
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