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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:01 am to
Posted by lsutiger2010
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:01 am to
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Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:01 am to
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I said what if you could know this virus would "only" kill 50k annually. Good to go forward as normal, right?


You have your answer with how flu is handled now. I am confused by why you even need to ask this hypo.
Posted by SaintsandTigers
Member since Feb 2020
461 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:02 am to
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You have your answer with how flu is handled now
Vaccine available, etc etc

I am just wondering when people are going to be ok with going forward as normal.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11824 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:03 am to
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"If and when the infections will come -- and they will come, sorry to say, sad to say -- when you're dealing with an infectious disease... we want to be where the infection is going to be, as well as where it is," Fauci said.
"Everybody should say, 'All hands on deck,'" he added.


Where was this CDC in January?
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21552 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:03 am to
Updated estimated testing capacity for the US. It is unclear if any of these are actually running at capacity right now.

Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88028 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:05 am to
Weird that there’s a line for all CA private and public labs... and then a couple CA private labs are listed. Are they double counting?
Posted by LarryDavid
Los Angeles
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:05 am to
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 10:08 am
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49429 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:07 am to
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Not it isnt


Yes, it is. You struggle to understand scale and concentration. It's not uncommon, most people do.

But to put it into sports terms, it would be like asking if LSU Basketball will win the SEC tournament if Joe Burrow throws three touchdowns.

It simply isn't reality.

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I am making a point that you and everyone else in here has made it a point in life to accept 50k deaths a year as an ok number for us to still have all events and large gatherings go on as normal during winter


50K spread across the entire US and their regional systems over a 12 month period.

Sure.

That is not what happens in pandemics of novel viruses and is not what is happening now.

What if you have 50K deaths this year from COVID-19 but 20K of those occur in the two month period in the City of Los Angeles? Is that then an acceptable pretense for taking spread-reducing measures?

Political borders are great for politics but not for the spread of infectious disease. Viruses don't care how a civilization defines its borders.

You made the same blunder yesterday when you quoted he infection and death rate in China. Your numbers were right but they were completely and utterly irrelevant.

The Chinese did not occur evenly throughout China. 98% of it occurred in one small area of one in city in one province. It's called a cluster and it is what the infectious disease docs worry about.

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Because, we could still take further measures to decrease the spread of the flu, but we have decided that we do not need to


Because it's not comparable. We do have flu clusters from time to time and take isolation measures but those instances are rare and the infectious spread of the flu is much more spread out geographically because our bodies already have antibodies to fight it off and 1/3 of the population gets a vaccine. It's herd immunity on a regional scale.


Look, I'm not trying to be an arse here but your understanding of infectious disease, spread, scale, and concentration are completely and utterly lacking. At no point in this entire thread have you contributed anything of relevance.
Posted by SaintsandTigers
Member since Feb 2020
461 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:09 am to
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At no point in this entire thread have you contributed anything of relevance.
I have tried to help yall stop being purse clutching fairies
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 10:10 am
Posted by fargobison
Member since Aug 2011
4453 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:10 am to
I don't think we need draconian methods here. People just need to wash their hands, don't touch their face and if you are sick stay home and don't flood the hospital and urgent cares unless you are very sick. Of course we live in a nation of morons so even that will be difficult.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53483 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:11 am to
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After a year, maybe. By May like this guy said, no.


To have 8 million infected in eight weeks would require around 16k infected right now.


Is that an absurd assumption?
Posted by GeauxTigers2020
Member since Sep 2013
28667 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:13 am to
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Developing: Michigan State University says it learned today of a ""probable" coronavirus case linked to the campus, which the Ingham County Health Department is currently investigating and monitoring.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49429 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:13 am to
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I have tried to help yall stop being purse clutching fairies


But coming from someone who quite literally has no clue what they are talking about is worthless.

I could advise NASA on how to build a rocket but it's not worth anything because I don't know the first thing about building rockets.

And I've been pretyy consisten in saying this isn't the apocoplase but it certainly isnt the flu,
Posted by SaintsandTigers
Member since Feb 2020
461 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:15 am to
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And I've been pretyy consisten in saying this isn't the apocoplase but it certainly isnt the flu,

You say that, and then at the same type are not advocating we handle it that way
Posted by LarryDavid
Los Angeles
Member since Sep 2010
4207 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:16 am to
I'm sure you know it is more than just washing your hands and not touching your face

If you are near someone with the virus, just them talking to you can be enough to be infected. The particles hang in the air as well. People are actually mini-spitting at you when they are talking. The time it does hang in the air is debatable, God knows it has been here, but still, it is there. Especially in closed areas.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61463 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:16 am to
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bc the flu is contained relatively by a vaccine.
not really. Flu shots are not taken by majority of people
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88028 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:16 am to
That’s with the assumption of spread doubling every 6 days right without slowing at all right?
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:16 am to
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To have 8 million infected in eight weeks would require around 16k infected right now.


The guy claims it’s the flu. Then ridicules someone for saying it could infect 8 million people. According to the CDC the flu infects 9 mil to 45 mil per year.
That’s with a vaccine.

I don’t think they even know what their talking points are anymore. They just attack everything posted. It doesn’t really matter what we say, we won’t be free from panic until this thread goes away.
Posted by MadDogs
Member since Jul 2018
454 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:18 am to
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Where was this CDC in January?

Fauci isn't CDC, he is NIH and he seems to be one of the few federal officials free to say exactly what is on his mind.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20975 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:18 am to
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I have tried to help yall stop being purse clutching fairies



You are just like the funeral home owners in St. Bernard who refused to evacuate in the face of Katrina.

Preparing for a storm that's coming isn't pearl-clutching. But idiotically pretending that a hurricane isn't going to damage anything and laughing at the people boarding up their homes give you the brain of a five-year-old.
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