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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:31 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:31 pm to
quote:

Possibly asymptomatic transmission

26% in the ICU
4% mortality

Average hospital stay was 10 days

If you can’t see how this is different than the flu and could massively overwhelm our healthcare system, well I don’t know what to tell you.


Or, you could always look at the cases outside of China. I realize they paint a very optimistic picture though, so I understand why you'd want to ignore them.
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13674 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:40 pm to
What’s the latest on the cruise ship? That’s got to be terrible being stuck on that thing waiting.
Posted by Burhead
Member since Dec 2014
2100 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:43 pm to
The newest case in San Diego tested negative first and was sent back into isolation at Miramar and than after further testing the CDC confirmed a positive result.

LINK
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:50 pm to
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Isnt this Honkus flight?

No. The flight Honkus and his family were on ended up at March Reserve Base.

That's closer to Los Angeles; south of San Bernardino and east of, the coincidentally named, Corona, California.

Also, if you're somewhat worried about the virus, good news:
A 95-year-old woman, China’s oldest novel coronavirus patient, was cured in Nanjing, East China’s Jiangsu province, on Friday afternoon.

If a 95 year old paralyzed lady can make a recovery, you (probably) can too.
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 9:53 pm
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11960 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:03 pm to
The Monday night links for the ship are almost all about individuals (bitchin') or how many of which nationality are there.
At least one report of good treatment by an American woman in a Japanese hospital.

Numbers that were updated yesterday had 61 already confirmed and an additional 70 confirmed on that ship Sunday (our time). I haven't found an update for today.

One story does mention the numbers on the cruise ship represent a majority of those so far confirmed not INSIDE China.

The other mess to watch is the infection pattern coming off the attendee at the meeting in the hotel in Singapore who then flew to a French Ski Chalet (at least four sick there) and then to Brighton England where he seems to have been at a Doctors office which is now closed with a'politive Details of Brighton closure'
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 10:09 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105334 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 12:12 am to
Hong Kong building evacuated, residents quarantined. Virus may have spread through sewer pipes. LINK
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 12:42 am
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29744 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 12:33 am to
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This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 9:46 pm
Posted by MSUDawg98
Bear the F Down
Member since Jan 2018
13921 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:02 am to
For some reason I've felt the urge to watch Contagion lately. Way too many videos/pictures/stories remind me of it.
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
18965 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 1:27 am to
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hey're either already dead or in hard labor camps by now.



Or disagreed with Big China's approach going forward... Chernobyl anyone?!?!??!
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 2:26 am to
So you think this is no worse than the flu? I have a link douche bag and the link to the communist numbers is listed.

frick you by the way
Posted by Markie812
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
2942 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 2:50 am to
China is lying about the numbers. I have seen some people saying they believe well over 100,000 have it (nobody for sure knows though). Zero Hedge has an article about how the they are only counting people that are showing symptoms rather than testing positive for the virus.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 3:04 am
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85161 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:17 am to
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Or, you could always look at the cases outside of China.


That’s still the thing to watch. And there are still only 2 deaths outside of China (Philippines and HK). If I remember both were Wuhan residents and you have to give the one in PH a pass with the quality of healthcare there. So really, just HK and that one is also questionable.

If you start to see deaths in a place like SG, Europe, or US, then its time to take notice.

This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 5:18 am
Posted by Bulletproof Lover
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
1900 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 6:08 am to
Based on the current numbers, we have about two weeks to prepare in Louisiana.
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 6:41 am to
Is this the making of Stephen King's book, "The Stand".

Bring out your dead!
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53483 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 6:52 am to
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I have a link douche bag and the link to the communist numbers is listed.


Merely having a link doesn’t confer authenticity. I can make a website in 5 minutes that looks more professional than what Mike Adams, self appointed “Health Ranger,” posted on his doomsday blog.

The fact remains that he uses links to “cite” things that aren’t true.

I’ve READ the Lancelet article. It is actually posted in this thread. I invite you to read it as well.

I’m not processing the data through a filter of a doomsday conspiracy theorist. Especially one who puts out articles like the one saying that if the case rate in Wuhan wasn’t zero by yesterday then quarantine wasn’t working, and the spread of the virus was being helped by the left wing media downplaying everything about this so it can spread everywhere and kill a lot of people to accomplish some agenda.

But I digress: all of the links in the world doesn’t change the fact that the Lancelet never said what they are claiming. So you can make all of the linked excerpts containing 4th grade math all you want. Calculations based on that value are all wrong. That’s not a matter of opinion or judgement. It just is.

Going broader than the Lancelet article, mortality ranges from 0.8% (including estimated asymptomatic carriers), to 17%, if you isolate your cases to only the Hubei province which for some reason is getting hit far harder than even other parts of China.

In that perspective, the WHO estimate of 2-3% seems fairly reasonable. Especially there has been all of one death from this disease outside of China, and no where in the West.

quote:

So you think this is no worse than the flu?


I never said that. In fact, I’ve even started to pre buy some groceries and stocking the freezer in the unlikely event this does go sour and I want to self quarantine.

That doesn’t mean this is a peer to untreated typhoid fever however.


This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 6:54 am
Posted by Boat Motor Bandit
Member since Jun 2016
1891 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 8:04 am to
Well......anything new here?
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
61245 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 8:11 am to
Volva has initiated doomsday prep protocols before the civil unrest begins.

Worst case scenario he’s ready for hurricane season in 4-5 months.

It’s a win-win if he lives.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 8:12 am
Posted by Poker_hog
Member since Mar 2019
3655 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 8:33 am to
quote:

Volva has initiated doomsday prep protocols before the civil unrest begins.



Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:33 am to
Coronavirus: New study finds incubation period of up to 24 days

quote:

New research based on data gathered from more than 1,000 coronavirus patients in China found that the incubation period for the virus was as long as 24 days rather than the previously believed 14 days, and fewer than half of the patients showed fever symptoms when they first saw doctors.


This bug is showing a lot of variability.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53483 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:33 am to


Give me some credit.

Just buying and freezing perishables, that will be consumed if nothing happens in normal meals.

I do it to varying degrees a lot in response to circumstances. Keep a rotating stock of about a month worth of pantry items as a baseline.


Doomaday protocols involves freeze dried foods, gas hoarding, booze, and ammo.

quote:

Worst case scenario he’s ready for hurricane season in 4-5 months.

It’s a win-win if he lives.


Bingo. If I wasn’t in FTW at least.

But hurricanes play a large role why I appreciate the value of inventory stocks.

Was basically cut off after Katrina for weeks.

More like pre buying what I ordinarily get so it’s a cost neutral act that doesn’t cause harm when nothing happens.

I do it at least once every few years because of something or another. Not really significant for a “prepper.”
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 9:40 am
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