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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 4/20/20 at 7:49 pm to
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
15252 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 7:49 pm to
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Wow. You seem lost


Are you saying its the same as the flu? If I'm lost, why is that?
Posted by Shaun176
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
3161 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 7:50 pm to
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I'm not saying that the death rate justifies the shutdown at all but equating it to the flu is disingenuous at best.


This is not a normal Flu, but comparable to the 1957 Flu that killed 116,000 in a USA that had less than half the population of today and 70% less people over 75. Adjusted for an aging and larger population the 116000 that the 1957 Flu killed would be 275000-300000 today.

Much less lethal than the Spanish Flu that would have killed 7 Million with our population today.

People need to understand that people die all the time. We lose 440000 a year to cigarettes and they are legal.

Cancel festivals, reduce capacity in some places, remote work where possible, close waiting rooms and resume nearly all normal economic activity.
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 8:01 pm
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85713 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 7:56 pm to
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flu is disingenuous at best.


Much more contagious, but with more and more data coming in, the death rate may come in line with the Flu... And there is a vaccine for the flu.

Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
15252 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:06 pm to
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This is not a normal Flu, but comparable to the 1957 Flu that killed 116,000 in a USA that had less than half the population


The expectation is that we can use methods that would prevent a population normalized death number that you threw out.

You are misunderstanding me. I am not in favor of keeping it locked down. I'm in favor of opening it up but with a society that understands, and attempts to mitigate, the risks. People running around saying its just a cold or the flu will frick this up for everyone.

Open it up but this is not the flu.
Posted by Shaun176
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
3161 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:10 pm to
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The expectation is that we can use methods that would prevent a population normalized death number that you threw out.


We don't have any methods to treat Covid 19 that they didn't have to treat the 1957 Flu.

It took 9 months to make a vaccine for the 1957 flu.

1957 flu showed up February/March 1957, cases declined during the summer, came back with a vengeance in the fall. The vaccine was approved for widespread use in October. Without the vaccine, epidemiologists suggest more than 1 million would have died in the US.

The Dow declined 15% during the fall of 1957 due to worries about it.

This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 8:21 pm
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
15252 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:15 pm to
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We don't have any methods to treat Covid 19 that they didn't have to treat the 1957 Flu.



I understand that. Hopefully we're better now at it.
Posted by Shaun176
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
3161 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:31 pm to
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I understand that. Hopefully we're better now at it.


Until we figure out which antiviral works, we are not better. Basic medicine has not changed. Fauci went to medical school just a few years after the 1957 Flu.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
15252 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:37 pm to
God speed to them.
Posted by slacker00
Member since Mar 2011
593 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:46 pm to
I used the population of the whole state not just the city. You think upstate has 25-35% infected also?
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
15252 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:07 pm to
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Basic medicine has not changed.


From a virus standpoint, other than improved vaccines and symptomatic treatment, I agree.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72639 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:08 pm to
1How are italy and Sweden doing these days?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112310 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:19 pm to
Wow. For once, Trump actually is playing 3D chess

Will be interesting to watch the left who is screaming at him for opening up, also now scream we need to let immigrants in

Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85713 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:37 pm to
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Will be interesting to watch the left who is screaming at him for opening up, also now scream we need to let immigrants in


That’s not his real twitter, is it?

His is “threrealdonaltrump” or something like that
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41717 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:39 pm to
You’re looking at a facebook screen shot. Not twitter.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112310 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:39 pm to
That’s Facebook, not twitter
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85713 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:43 pm to
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That’s Facebook, not twitter


Why would he post on facebook and not twitter... His info is always via twitter.

Also, not seeing it on a major news outlet yet
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41717 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:44 pm to
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Also, not seeing it on a major news outlet yet



Try google.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112310 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:46 pm to
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Also, not seeing it on a major news outlet yet

Its on every internet page. And his twitter if you like
Posted by L5UT1ger
Member since Feb 2004
3092 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:49 pm to
My Parish has zero deaths and has not had a new case since last Thursday. We have had a total of less than 70 cases.

Our mayor says she will only do what the governor does and not follow the trump guidelines so we still have stay at home, only essential businesses, and a curfew.

I’m lost how this is reality.

Oh, and we were graded a D for social distancing.

How can these fact lead me to any conclusion other than this virus ain’t all that?

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112310 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:53 pm to
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Oh, and we were graded a D for social distancing.
The grades retard governors are using is the dumbest shite ever

It’s based on how far you travel in a day

Country guy in the sticks drives 10 miles to go fishing. F for social distancing

Guy in New York travels .5 miles on the subway where he stands packed next to 100+ people . A for social distancing


This alone should let you know how genius our leaders are
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