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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 4/15/20 at 2:02 am to
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84831 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 2:02 am to
Citizens in North Carolina are being threatened with fines and arrests if they protest the government, for protests are deemed “non-essential activity”.

The quarantine is going over REALLY well guys.
This post was edited on 4/15/20 at 2:02 am
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
64537 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 2:42 am to
Maybe the mitigation worked, maybe it was an overreaction


I honestly think it’s some of both but the truth is that it’s impossible to know
Posted by ever43
Raleigh, NC
Member since Aug 2009
2947 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 2:43 am to
I fully believe that both sides have done a shitty thing by politicizing the virus, the preparations, response, treatment, etc. If anything bumps up against Covid, it’s going to be used by someone to score political points. I’m not casting no blame on anyone....hell....I work in national politics for a living and I’m guilty of it.

What scares me, and maybe I’m wrong here, is that we’ve slowly turned this into a partisan fight and it’s the last thing we need at the moment. I hope this light a lot of citizens, civic, state, and federal leaders are seeing at the end of the tunnel is real and not fool’s gold. The best way i can describe it is:
You know how you go into the doctor with a terrible sinus infection and step throat...you get a steroid shot, antibiotic Rx, the GOOD decongestant w/ meth building blocks......and if you’re lucky and have a long relationship with the Dr, some Tussionex cough syrup.

So after taking everything for 4 or 5 days you feel like new again, are back at work, doing social activities, etc. Since you feel fine, you may quit taking the antibiotics and find yourself sick again; possibly sicker. I was stupid when I was young and did that a couple of times. So, back to my original point:
Are we being that young stupid 20 something and “skipping” the rest of the meds because we’re feeling better? Will it bite us in the arse?
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84831 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 2:45 am to
Yeah the mitigation worked so well we went from 2,000,000 deaths and 100,000,000 infections to 26,000 deaths and 600,000 cases.
Posted by QboveTopSecret
America
Member since Feb 2018
3505 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 4:31 am to
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Actually, the problem is with you.


Foreign Policy, had a headline on their January 29, 2020 website stating, “The Wuhan Virus Is Not a Lab-Made Bioweapon.” However, just days later on February 3, 2020, the same journal’s website stated, “Chinese Officials Can’t Help Lying About the Wuhan Virus.”

Trust China.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85713 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 5:27 am to
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threatened with fines and arrests if they protest the government, for protests are deemed “non-essential activity”.


Yeah, the high school educated Raleigh police department is going to regret that statement.... can’t wait for the lawsuits and backlash.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79518 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 5:30 am to
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can’t wait for the lawsuits and backlash.


Courts are closed
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112310 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:50 am to
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Actually, the problem is with you.


Waiting for people to tell you what is there to say, but not putting the time to do more than skim the hyperbolic headlines.

God I bet you enjoy nothing more than smelling your own shite everyday dont you?

Politicians and leaders used to the high end estimates on absolutely hyperbolic estimations in order to get the support of the people

And some said this was a bad idea, but you, the genius, said its fine, its about flattening the curve and not overwhelming hospitals. We will open back up once that is done.


Well, your own shite actually smells like shite now, doesnt it?

Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
9961 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:58 am to
Just looked up the age vs covid19 data for Italy. It is even more skewed toward older individuals than Louisiana's statistics are! 83.5% of Italian deaths are 70+ y/o.



Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85713 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:01 am to
That last graph, so they are still counting the 17yr old that died, of which his dad said it wasn’t rona?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41717 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:04 am to
Wasn't there a baby that was born prematurely due to rona complications with the mother and died as a result?
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7291 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:34 am to
Wait, so you are saying that the steps the government has taken to prevent the spread of this virus and save countless lives of our older citizens and citizens with preexisting conditions ripe for death if they catch it have been overblown and not necessary? Just trying to figure out how much weight your posts deserve. Thanks.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
5641 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:54 am to
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Are we being that young stupid 20 something and “skipping” the rest of the meds because we’re feeling better? Will it bite us in the arse?


It's not an unreasonable question, except for the fact that in real life there's no such thing as a black or white answer. So, what are the longer term consequences of these "meds"? How dangerous is it to shut down an economy and let politicians and bureaucrats run wild with what would normally be considered authoritarian dictates? How dangerous is it to pile trillions more in debt on top of the trillions we already can't pay, which will eventually result in either outright or inflationary default?

Is printing money to pay the bills now considered a safe remedy for whatever ails our economy, like some people consider tylenol a safe remedy for their constant aches and pains? Or should we persistently remind people that Tylenol overdose is probably the most common cause of acute liver failure in this country, and that money overdose due to debt monetization (or as a substitute for direct taxation) has long been proven to kill the patient in the end? We're well into a ten plus year clinical trial of that deadly experiment and about to double down on the dose. I've studied that particular form of snake oil for a long time and my opinion is that the policy/fiscal/monetary medication we're being sold as a cure is now a significantly bigger threat than the virus itself.
This post was edited on 4/15/20 at 11:06 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112310 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:03 am to
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Wait, so you are saying that the steps the government has taken to prevent the spread of this virus and save countless lives of our older citizens and citizens with preexisting conditions ripe for death if they catch it have been overblown and not necessary? Just trying to figure out how much weight your posts deserve. Thanks.


I am saying giving extreme powers to your govt is more dangerous than letting a virus run its course

I was told I was wrong, this was just about flattening a curve and keeping hospitals from being overrun

Well, I don’t see our govt slowing down anytime soon. The mayor of Nola is now talking about cancelling all events through the year and our governor is talking about keeping things locked down until a vaccine comes about
This post was edited on 4/15/20 at 10:08 am
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
40392 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:09 am to
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giving extreme powers to your govt


They obviously already had these powers, right?

It's not like there was a vote.

We're just along for the ride. If this goes too far beyond the first of May, I would expect some civil unrest.

I'm not taking too much from the words of our mayors and governors who submit worst-case scenarios just so they can pat themselves on the back when it doesn't come to pass.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:16 am to
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Wasn't there a baby that was born prematurely due to rona complications with the mother and died as a result?



Yep.

Which unfortunately happens with viruses all the time.

Wife and I are trying to get pregnant at the moment and our OB said they're way more worried about the flu for their patients and babies if the mom isn't overweight or immuno compromised.

Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71628 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:42 am to
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They obviously already had these powers, right?

It's not like there was a vote.


They don't have these powers. Everything they are doing is unconstitutional but the overwhelming majority of people in this country (and on this board) are perfectly willing to give up their rights voluntarily for a little bit of short term safety.

I find that both sad and scary. The precedent is set. North Carolina has shown us that precedent in an obvious way. Now all it will take is for one REAL emergency to end the whole thing.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11839 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:51 am to
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They don't have these powers. Everything they are doing is unconstitutional but the overwhelming majority of people in this country (and on this board) are perfectly willing to give up their rights voluntarily for a little bit of short term safety.


I wouldn't say I gave up any rights. It was my company's decision to work from home and I thought it was best at the time. I think this is a little extreme. When JBE starts arresting us then I will say my rights are taken away.
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
22419 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:55 am to
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When JBE starts arresting us
it's coming
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21139 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:58 am to
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Wife and I are trying to get pregnant at the moment and our OB said they're way more worried about the flu for their patients and babies if the mom isn't overweight or immuno compromised.



If there's one thing that no one should be worried about for the next couple of years, it's the flu.

I expect there to be a tremendous push this fall for everyone to get the flu vaccine, because everyone who contracts the flu is someone who likely ends up needing a COVID-19 test and putting more stress on the system. If we can keep the flu at really low levels next winter, we won't have to deal with the "background noise" that it generates. It will mean lots more COVID-19 tests available for those who might actually have the disease.
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