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re: Cops should bring back the .44 Magnum & incorporate the .50 Desert Eagle?
Posted on 3/11/23 at 10:55 am to RuckMaul1
Posted on 3/11/23 at 10:55 am to RuckMaul1
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Cops should bring back the .44 Magnum & incorporate the .50 Desert Eagle?
But the female cops and limp wrist fairy men would not be able to handle the recoil. They better stick with 9 mm.
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Posted on 3/11/23 at 10:55 am to Old Sarge
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I’m not against carrying a handgun at all
But the bear spray is the absolute best thing to have on you in case of a charging grizzly, much greater odds of survival. Hunters that are killed by grizzlies always have handguns and high powered rifles on them too
Every bear encounter in Yellowstone is followed up by a forensic investigation to make sure grizzlies aren't being shot needlessly. You can read these reports online. Lot of accounts of bears charging even after getting sprayed in the face with bear spray.
That's where the plan B gun comes in. As one guide put it "you need a round powerful enough to shatter bones to physically stop a grizzly before it gets to you. Only a few guns that can consistently do that. The .44 mag, S&W .500, 12 guage, and .357 mag (although even that one you need to have good shot placement and get lucky).
Bottom line is I'm not going into the back country there without both bear spray and a gun with a shite load of stopping power.
Posted on 3/11/23 at 10:59 am to RuckMaul1
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I like my criminals with tangerine exit wounds. Would departments allow officers to carry around either?
I think for crime to really drop down we should use a 12 gauge shotgun. Anyone associated with criminals will be brought down with them
Posted on 3/11/23 at 11:04 am to TutHillTiger
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Don’t care for them, kick like a mule
Nah. My go to climbing stand (in the woods, not a food plot) is my Ruger Super Redhawk. Accurate to 80-90 yards which is farther than most shots in the woods.
The 7.5" barrel accommodates a scope and the extra weight result in little lift of "kick like a mule".
Killed many deer with it over the years. Easier to climb tree with it instead of a rifle.
I would not want to carry it as a LEO though, its heavy as hell and very cumbersome.
Posted on 3/11/23 at 11:14 am to RuckMaul1
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I like my criminals with tangerine exit wounds. Would departments allow officers to carry around either?
Tell us you don’t know anything about firearms without telling us you don’t know anything about firearms
Posted on 3/11/23 at 11:27 am to Big Scrub TX
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Big Scrub
Posted on 3/11/23 at 11:43 am to Buck_Rogers
quote:It's a logarithmic scale though.
A 44 magnum is only about 5 decibels higher than a 9mm.
Posted on 3/11/23 at 11:53 am to dbeck
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I want to go backpacking in Yellowstone but I need to shell out for a .44 mag to feel even halfway safe with all the Grizzlies up there.
If you do, don't just carry some regular hollow-points from the gun store. You'll need to go online and order some specialty dangerous game ammo. The others might not give you enough penetration on bears.
Posted on 3/11/23 at 12:31 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Which happens never.
Until you get a misfeed.
Posted on 3/11/23 at 12:40 pm to RuckMaul1
Yeah let's give them something that's harder to shoot
Posted on 3/11/23 at 12:47 pm to PureBlood
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The more instances where I see the yes men that the profession of law enforcement is becoming, the less firepower I want them to have.
Opposite for me. I prefer law enforcement to be yes men, rule abiding people.
Posted on 3/11/23 at 12:52 pm to greygoose
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I love it when I'm watching a movie, and a character is having a shootout with one........and only firing it with one hand.
I have a short barreled .500
It's not THAT bad.
I would imagine the .50 is much milder.
Posted on 3/11/23 at 1:20 pm to Buck_Rogers
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A 44 magnum is only about 5 decibels higher than a 9mm.
Tell me you don't understand dB without telling me you don't understand dB. It is a logarithmic scale so "only" a 5 dB increase results in 3.16 times the acoustic energy.
Posted on 3/11/23 at 5:42 pm to V Bainbridge
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Stupid fricking idea. They would kill a ton of people accidentally in shootouts with a criminals.
Taking this way too seriously
Posted on 3/11/23 at 5:49 pm to Obtuse1
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It is a logarithmic scale so "only" a 5 dB increase results in 3.16 times the acoustic energy
Law enforcement should be carrying a better version of the maxim 9, integrally suppressed. Their rifles should also have cans even if running supers
Posted on 3/11/23 at 6:23 pm to HoboDickCheese
22 mag is actually my man killer then special load 12 gauge 00 buck
Posted on 3/11/23 at 6:34 pm to RuckMaul1
Police got away from the 10mm because officers couldn't shoot it well, and you want to strap them with .44 mags?
I shot a lot of guns that "kick hard" by most peoples standards. It takes A LOT of practice to get good at it, and no matter how good you are you can't overcome physics. Follow up shots take much much longer vs lighter recoiling guns...
In other words, recoil is not good
I shot a lot of guns that "kick hard" by most peoples standards. It takes A LOT of practice to get good at it, and no matter how good you are you can't overcome physics. Follow up shots take much much longer vs lighter recoiling guns...
In other words, recoil is not good
Posted on 3/11/23 at 6:35 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Until you get a misfeed.
Which happens never.
I dropped over 2k rounds through a Milspec 1911 over two days dropping mags in the Georgia dirt/dust to do reloads on a the move, and never cleaned anything on purpose.
Not one misfeed was not my fault (mag seating, etc.) It's made me lazier, because everything feels like an AK/SKS.
And 10mm/.40S&W can F off. Far less kick from .45ACP 230g than a .40S&W carry load, even from a 3.3" barrel vs a Sig with a 3.9" barrel.
Most cops spend less time at the range than even the hobbyists here. Not a good combo for 10mm/.44MAG/.50DE. They needs lots of rounds because they generally can't shoot shite.
Posted on 3/11/23 at 7:12 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Police got away from the 10mm because WOMEN couldn't shoot it well, and you want to strap them with .44 mags?
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