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Cops put GPS tracker on man’s car, charge him with theft for removing it
Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:21 pm
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I’m sure these same police feel civil asset forfeiture isn’t theft though.
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A little more than a year ago, the state of Indiana charged a suspected drug dealer with theft for removing a government-owned GPS tracking device from his SUV. This month, the state's Supreme Court began considering the case, and some justices seemed skeptical of the government's argument.
"I'm really struggling with how is that theft," said Justice Steven David during recent oral arguments.
I’m sure these same police feel civil asset forfeiture isn’t theft though.
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:24 pm to DavidTheGnome
Is it legal to put the tracker there in the first place without his consent?
Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:24 pm to Ross
They can with a warrant. I don’t like the idea of the police using tracking devices on us period though, even with a warrant.
This post was edited on 11/23/19 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:26 pm to DavidTheGnome
Ridiculous
Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:29 pm to DavidTheGnome
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Back in 2012, the US Supreme Court ruled that it's illegal for the police to attach a GPS tracking device to someone's car without a warrant.
frick that.
It should be illegal period. That is an unreasonable violation of privacy and is not something people agree to when they drive on public roads and when they get their drivers license.
The only way I could see GPS trackers on cars being ok is for convicted felons and probation officers need to track them.
The idea that government can put tracking devices on my car is completely fricked up when I am a free man.
Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:34 pm to DavidTheGnome
So the cops put a bug in my house and I find it and throw it in the trash that’s considered theft?
Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:39 pm to Sentrius
Agreed 
Somebody in the Hong Kong thread got really defensive saying America is nothing like HK and the CCP. We have the most incarcerated population on the planet, he NSA spies on us, our police rob us through revenue generating speed traps, civil asset forfeiture, etc. They put tracking devices on us. To bust us because there are certain things we aren’t allowed to put into our own bodies.
Land of the frickin free...
Somebody in the Hong Kong thread got really defensive saying America is nothing like HK and the CCP. We have the most incarcerated population on the planet, he NSA spies on us, our police rob us through revenue generating speed traps, civil asset forfeiture, etc. They put tracking devices on us. To bust us because there are certain things we aren’t allowed to put into our own bodies.
Land of the frickin free...
Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:44 pm to DavidTheGnome
I really am pro police but when it comes to fricking bonehead moves like this, i think police officers should be called out.
Those fricking morons working off emotion and lack of common sense keep fueling the fire and the n wanna wonder why people hate the police
Those fricking morons working off emotion and lack of common sense keep fueling the fire and the n wanna wonder why people hate the police
Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:46 pm to DavidTheGnome
I wonder if the police had a warrant to do that for so long.
Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:47 pm to DavidTheGnome
What made them install a GPS on the guy's car? He didn’t have an iPhone?
Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:47 pm to DavidTheGnome
quote:I mean you are right
Somebody in the Hong Kong thread got really defensive saying America is nothing like HK and the CCP. We have the most incarcerated population on the planet, he NSA spies on us, our police rob us through revenue generating speed traps, civil asset forfeiture, etc. They put tracking devices on us. To bust us because there are certain things we aren’t allowed to put into our own bodies.
Land of the frickin free...
But we need to pray to god we aren’t Hong Kong
Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:51 pm to SuperSaint
My point in that thread is HKers were at least fighting for their eroding freedoms. Americans just sit back when things like the story in the OP happen and say "that sucks".
Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:53 pm to DavidTheGnome
I do wonder what the officers think about this. It would be a moral conundrum for anyone I’m sure, but maybe they realize it’s worth losing public opinion:trust over in order to reap the benefits.
Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:54 pm to Sentrius
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It should be illegal period. That is an unreasonable violation of privacy and is not something people agree to when they drive on public roads and when they get their drivers license.
They do it all the time. But they persuade a judge that they have probable cause and get a court order that allows it. They don’t just randomly put them on cars.
Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:56 pm to DavidTheGnome
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Americans just sit back when things like the story in the OP happen and say "that sucks".
Well... when you allow the police to militarize, what options do we really have?
Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:56 pm to NotoriousFSU
Moral conundrum? Cops trample all over our rights daily and you call it a moral conundrum?
You need to re-evaluate your position.
You need to re-evaluate your position.
Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:57 pm to Twenty 49
Which shouldn’t be allowed even if they have probable cause. We aren’t a police state (arguable) and things like that are how you very quickly get to being a police state.
Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:58 pm to DavidTheGnome
Meanwhile, the guy has probably had to pay thousands of dollars in lawyer fees while the police/State use taxpayer funded lawyers.
Push back and face SLAPP lawsuits.
Push back and face SLAPP lawsuits.
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:00 pm to DavidTheGnome
Unless the man consented or there was a warrant, those police can go frick themselves here.
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:02 pm to MoarKilometers
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Well... when you allow the police to militarize, what options do we really have?
Get out there and protest. The citizens of HK did, there's no reason we can’t. Our police should be there to serve and protect, not find every way it can to extract money from us and lock us up to fuel the prison industry.
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