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re: Cops put GPS tracker on man’s car, charge him with theft for removing it

Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:07 pm to
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
21525 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:07 pm to
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Unless the man consented or there was a warrant/quote]

Article says

[quote]The case began in July 2018, when the Warrick County Sheriff's Office got a warrant to attach a GPS tracking device to Derek Heuring's car. Information from a confidential informant had led them to believe that Heuring was using the vehicle to sell meth.

Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45540 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:08 pm to
quote:

oral arguments.


I have those with my wife once a month.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31596 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:21 pm to
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Twenty 49



Irrelevant. That doesn’t make it ok for our police to be installing tracking devices on his car without his consent. That goes beyond what we as a supposedly free society should tolerate, and every time we give in and allow stuff like this to happen because of muh bad guys we become less and less free.
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
12644 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:24 pm to
My position is that being an officer of the law today isn’t a profession most people in modern society are equipped for. The positions and situations they witness and are involved in aren’t something to envy. People making life or death decisions and being held accountable for every action made during circumstances beyond their control isn’t something I think 99.99% of the population is prepared to face. Yes, there are POS cops, but maybe sometimes protecting more people’s freedom means being a POS in certain instances.
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
10205 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:25 pm to
We used to not even need a warrant.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21409 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:32 pm to
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Yes, there are POS cops, but maybe sometimes protecting more people’s freedom means being a POS in certain instances.

Name me 3 times you've seen a cop protect someone's freedom.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31596 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:41 pm to
quote:

My position is that being an officer of the law today isn’t a profession most people in modern society are equipped for. The positions and situations they witness and are involved in aren’t something to envy. People making life or death decisions and being held accountable for every action made during circumstances beyond their control isn’t something I think 99.99% of the population is prepared to face. Yes, there are POS cops, but maybe sometimes protecting more people’s freedom means being a POS in certain instances.



I think most of them are good people for sure. But the police apparatus as a whole has been corrupted by "revenue" from policing as they call it (speeding tickets, civil asset forfeiture) and the ever increasing militarization of the force. The war on drugs certainly hasn’t helped matters from a civil liberties standpoint. The police aren’t protecting our freedoms when they use CAF to take our property, spend the day running radar instead of investigating burglaries, filling prison beds because there is a financial incentive to do so, jailing people for victimless crimes, etc.

I grew up in a law enforcement family, I know what it’s like and they are good people, but we should never allow stuff like this to happen because "it’s a tough job". We give them power over us with the expectation that it not be abused, intentionally or not.
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
12644 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:50 pm to
Protests. Speeches on college campuses. Any time an officer is killed in the line of duty.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
9245 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:59 pm to
Agreed. Besides, it would be much cheaper for them to just buy your location from apple anyway.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
26328 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:59 pm to
Good. Back the blue.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33956 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 10:06 pm to
Before 2012, lots of tote-the-note car dealers put them on their cars. If the driver traveled far away, they didn't always go get them, but they knew other dealers around the country, and they would sell the car to one of them, and let them go after it. They may still be doing that, if there's money owed on the car.

Sorry for the run on sentences. It's late, and I'm tired.
Posted by Glistening Member
Gramercy
Member since Nov 2007
744 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 10:10 pm to
Little known fact:

Behind each "Entering Baton Rouge City Limits" sign, there is a license plate reader.
Posted by Tiger Iron
Middle LA
Member since Apr 2012
2069 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 10:16 pm to
They can with a warrant but it is not the car owners responsibility to keep up with the tracking devise. The car is an extension of the home so he can do whatever he wants with that tracker. Hire attorney. No way this sticks...
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
117177 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 10:33 pm to
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They can with a warrant. I don’t like the idea of the police using tracking devices on us period though, even with a warrant


Just because they have a warrant doesnt mean the guy has to consent to it being in his vehicle. If he finds it and discards it, too fricking bad.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 10:37 pm to
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My point in that thread is HKers were at least fighting for their eroding freedoms. Americans just sit back when things like the story in the OP happen and say "that sucks".
Youd be called a right wing notjob for standing up to cops.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 10:38 pm to
They have a complete record of all your phone calls, all your text and all your movement. If you have more than a dozen guns they know where you live at all times. They have a record of everything posted on here as well.

You being free is a better illusion than anything you will see in Vegas
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21409 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 10:40 pm to
quote:

The car is an extension of the home

No it isn't.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26927 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:36 am to
Did they serve the warrant? The guy finds some device on his car, no way he knows what it is or who put it there.

I'd deactivate it.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21409 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:43 am to
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Did they serve the warrant?

Clearly you don't have the slightest idea how this works. When they get a warrant to tap your phone, they don't serve you with that info. Kinda defeats the entire premise of monitoring someone without them knowing. Same thing for a GPS tracker.

The correct question is did they obtain a warrant. And for that I have no idea
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:52 am to
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We have the most incarcerated population on the planet


We could probably stand to put double that in jail for a while.
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