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re: Cops put GPS tracker on man’s car, charge him with theft for removing it
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:07 pm to Jyrdis
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:07 pm to Jyrdis
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Unless the man consented or there was a warrant/quote]
Article says
[quote]The case began in July 2018, when the Warrick County Sheriff's Office got a warrant to attach a GPS tracking device to Derek Heuring's car. Information from a confidential informant had led them to believe that Heuring was using the vehicle to sell meth.
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:08 pm to DavidTheGnome
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oral arguments.
I have those with my wife once a month.
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:21 pm to Twenty 49
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Twenty 49
Irrelevant. That doesn’t make it ok for our police to be installing tracking devices on his car without his consent. That goes beyond what we as a supposedly free society should tolerate, and every time we give in and allow stuff like this to happen because of muh bad guys we become less and less free.
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:24 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
My position is that being an officer of the law today isn’t a profession most people in modern society are equipped for. The positions and situations they witness and are involved in aren’t something to envy. People making life or death decisions and being held accountable for every action made during circumstances beyond their control isn’t something I think 99.99% of the population is prepared to face. Yes, there are POS cops, but maybe sometimes protecting more people’s freedom means being a POS in certain instances.
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:25 pm to DavidTheGnome
We used to not even need a warrant.
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:32 pm to NotoriousFSU
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Yes, there are POS cops, but maybe sometimes protecting more people’s freedom means being a POS in certain instances.
Name me 3 times you've seen a cop protect someone's freedom.
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:41 pm to NotoriousFSU
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My position is that being an officer of the law today isn’t a profession most people in modern society are equipped for. The positions and situations they witness and are involved in aren’t something to envy. People making life or death decisions and being held accountable for every action made during circumstances beyond their control isn’t something I think 99.99% of the population is prepared to face. Yes, there are POS cops, but maybe sometimes protecting more people’s freedom means being a POS in certain instances.
I think most of them are good people for sure. But the police apparatus as a whole has been corrupted by "revenue" from policing as they call it (speeding tickets, civil asset forfeiture) and the ever increasing militarization of the force. The war on drugs certainly hasn’t helped matters from a civil liberties standpoint. The police aren’t protecting our freedoms when they use CAF to take our property, spend the day running radar instead of investigating burglaries, filling prison beds because there is a financial incentive to do so, jailing people for victimless crimes, etc.
I grew up in a law enforcement family, I know what it’s like and they are good people, but we should never allow stuff like this to happen because "it’s a tough job". We give them power over us with the expectation that it not be abused, intentionally or not.
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:50 pm to MoarKilometers
Protests. Speeches on college campuses. Any time an officer is killed in the line of duty.
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:59 pm to Sentrius
Agreed. Besides, it would be much cheaper for them to just buy your location from apple anyway.
Posted on 11/23/19 at 10:06 pm to Sentrius
Before 2012, lots of tote-the-note car dealers put them on their cars. If the driver traveled far away, they didn't always go get them, but they knew other dealers around the country, and they would sell the car to one of them, and let them go after it. They may still be doing that, if there's money owed on the car.
Sorry for the run on sentences. It's late, and I'm tired.
Sorry for the run on sentences. It's late, and I'm tired.
Posted on 11/23/19 at 10:10 pm to DavidTheGnome
Little known fact:
Behind each "Entering Baton Rouge City Limits" sign, there is a license plate reader.
Behind each "Entering Baton Rouge City Limits" sign, there is a license plate reader.
Posted on 11/23/19 at 10:16 pm to Ross
They can with a warrant but it is not the car owners responsibility to keep up with the tracking devise. The car is an extension of the home so he can do whatever he wants with that tracker. Hire attorney. No way this sticks...
Posted on 11/23/19 at 10:33 pm to DavidTheGnome
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They can with a warrant. I don’t like the idea of the police using tracking devices on us period though, even with a warrant
Just because they have a warrant doesnt mean the guy has to consent to it being in his vehicle. If he finds it and discards it, too fricking bad.
Posted on 11/23/19 at 10:37 pm to DavidTheGnome
quote:Youd be called a right wing notjob for standing up to cops.
My point in that thread is HKers were at least fighting for their eroding freedoms. Americans just sit back when things like the story in the OP happen and say "that sucks".
Posted on 11/23/19 at 10:38 pm to DavidTheGnome
They have a complete record of all your phone calls, all your text and all your movement. If you have more than a dozen guns they know where you live at all times. They have a record of everything posted on here as well.
You being free is a better illusion than anything you will see in Vegas
You being free is a better illusion than anything you will see in Vegas
Posted on 11/23/19 at 10:40 pm to Tiger Iron
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The car is an extension of the home
No it isn't.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:36 am to MoarKilometers
Did they serve the warrant? The guy finds some device on his car, no way he knows what it is or who put it there.
I'd deactivate it.
I'd deactivate it.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:43 am to antibarner
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Did they serve the warrant?
Clearly you don't have the slightest idea how this works. When they get a warrant to tap your phone, they don't serve you with that info. Kinda defeats the entire premise of monitoring someone without them knowing. Same thing for a GPS tracker.
The correct question is did they obtain a warrant. And for that I have no idea
Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:52 am to DavidTheGnome
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We have the most incarcerated population on the planet
We could probably stand to put double that in jail for a while.
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