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re: Consumer prices rose 7.1% last month compared to a year ago

Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:42 am to
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
4862 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:42 am to
quote:

The economy is in the shitter. People are working 2 jobs to make ends meet. Depleting their 401k's and running up huge credit card debt. Wait till after the. holidays Bankruptcies and divorces will sky rocket.


Independent means are a privilege. Abandon that pipe dream and go work one of the new government jobs, and live in government housing, and use government transportation and be happy. You filthy colonizers.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17329 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:44 am to
Not shocking.

Honestly consumer spending is up less than that. So we are in a stagflation cycle where it appears that consumer spending is up slightly, but it's up because inflation is forcing additional spending on basic necessities. The quality of life and spending power of the average consumer is down.

We need to bring back the misery index. This is a huge problem.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85358 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:44 am to
But twitter told me trump was a nazi.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26368 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:49 am to
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But ABC News told me this was good news this morning.



When a loaf of bread or a stick of butter is up 40%, consumers have to spend 40% more.

ABC will report that as good economic news because consumer are spending more - ignoring that wages are not increasing and layoffs are starting to occur in multiple industries. Usually they'd be right that consumer spending increases are a sign of economic growth. In this case the inflated prices are masking real economic issues, and both fiscal and monetary policy makers are not adjusting quickly enough.

Congress and The Fed have both been miles behind these trends for a while. They were late in addressing inflation, and now they are going to be late in tempering rate hikes.

The media's coverage of economic issues differs based on who is in office at the time. When GDP was up 4.1% and inflation was under 2%, they barely covered it because the cheeto was in the White House. But when we have two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth in 2022 that still couldn't be propped up by increased spending on inflated goods.....we get crickets.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
37988 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:51 am to
my grocery bill says otherwise

fricking $4 for large eggs that were barely over a dollar not long ago
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26368 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:54 am to
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fricking $4 for large eggs that were barely over a dollar not long ago



You just spent $4 when last year you only spend $1.

The government and their media lackies will claim that this is great economic news.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6054 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:56 am to
Potato got this
Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
4194 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:10 am to
It's crazy people are celebrating this. Even if it's "slowing" its still scorching hot inflation.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
132999 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:11 am to
Come on man! That’s a bunch of malarkey! You saved 16 cents on Fourth of July a year ago!
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57690 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:16 am to

Here's what they aren't acknowledging when they tout this: 7.1% is the average increase for November 2022 prices over November 2021 prices. November 2021 prices were up 6.8% over November 2020 prices.

That's an increase of ~14% in just two years. Along with that, MoM increase was still .1%. As long as MoM is still steadily increasing, we aren't to the middle of the downturn yet (thus aren't in the "turned the corner" territory).

Unemployment remains at incredible lows (at 3.7%) and job creation continues to be strong. Until these change and we start seeing combined CPI (from the current and previous year) consistently below double digits, we're still fighting an uphill battle.

The Fed is expected to stick with the .5 hike this week, bringing the FedFund to its highest rate in well over a decade (since 2007).

As I mentioned to a friend a few minutes ago, the longer we go with good job numbers while inflation is still high and rates increase, the more I have the feeling that a house of cards is getting taller and taller.
Posted by BlueCheckCertified
Member since Dec 2022
70 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:50 am to
Fun fact, the BLS CPI has changed over the years to reflect cost of "living" than just cost of goods. The old CPI is nearly double the current one.
Posted by White Bear
AT WORK
Member since Jul 2014
17156 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 11:29 am to
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EVERYTHING except my paycheck......
shite, I’m the best deal in town.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57690 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 11:53 am to
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Fun fact, the BLS CPI has changed over the years to reflect cost of "living" than just cost of goods. The old CPI is nearly double the current one.



One of the most important changes was in Shelter (housing). They moved completely from home prices to OER (basically, the rent-equivalent the home owner would be paying to rent their home instead of having the mortgage). On the national level, rent changes far more slowly than home prices thus this has skewed CPI down (especially over the last decade when the housing market has been red hot).
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11764 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 2:06 pm to
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MoM increase was still .1%. As long as MoM is still steadily increasing, we aren't to the middle of the downturn yet (thus aren't in the "turned the corner" territory).


Huh? MoM at 0.1% isn't some insane number and well within what the Fed is targeting.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
21920 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 2:09 pm to
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only went up 0.1% - 0.2% month over month which is in the range of what we want. We don't want major deflation

Posted by Cajunhawk81
Member since Jan 2021
2511 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 2:09 pm to
Just looked at Fertilizer costs for Almond and Pistachio trees out in California. Close to triple.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11764 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 2:16 pm to
Look, I think Joe Biden sucks as bad as anyone. But, 0.1% is getting to where the Fed will be very happy.
Posted by geauxjuice
t(-.-t)
Member since Jan 2007
4327 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 2:39 pm to
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continuing a monthslong decline



The actual frick is this language?



english? are you saying it's grammatically incorrect or that it's misleading?
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6423 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 2:40 pm to
All I know is that I paid $4.50 for eggs last week and they were $5.23 this week.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
135146 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 2:53 pm to
With the results of the midterms, it's clear people are okay with rising prices, supply shortages, and other nations laughing at us.
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