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Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:00 pm to Beradrebel
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:42 pm to Tom Thumb
As stated earlier, drive and experience trump education (still need a degree but GPA isn’t as important). Also don’t believe anyone that says they work 40 hours as an office guy. Sure it’s possible, but all that’s going to get you is an annual COL raise.
I’d strongly advise getting an engineering degree even if you want to go to construction.
I’d strongly advise getting an engineering degree even if you want to go to construction.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:12 pm to Tubedog13
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I was a field super at 23 making 60K. PM in early 30's making almost 100K. Now vice president. I would say I have a "decent" job making more than most of you fools.
I am not saying you don't. What I am saying is you are a very rare case that got a break. Most people aren't getting their foot in the damn door without the paper. I know, I tried before I decided to go back and finish my degree.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:15 pm to lsu777
I'm a commercial contractor
I'd rather hire skills than a degree
I'd rather hire skills than a degree
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:19 pm to TSS_Tiger
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A large percentage of the graduates in the field you are wanting to select will graduate and begin seeking employment feeling as though they are ready to be the boss and change the world when in reality they don't know their arse from a hole in the ground.
Well put. My $.02. I am in Oil & Gas construction. Specifically, we build pipelines and facilities and will recruit guys with Engineering and CM degrees to come to work for us after graduation. We rotate them from the field doing grunt office shite and into the office to see how accounting/estimating play critical roles in what the field does. The overall goal is to groom them into future PM's. I have probably been around 7-8 of these guys we have hired from UT, LSU, UofH, A&M, and one from ULL. The only ones worth a frick that made it into PM's are the ones that had field experience that they either got before college or during.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:20 pm to Tubedog13
Project Superintendents that I know up here building data centers are in the $150k range for salaries. Early mornings and long days and the good ones don't spend a lot of time at home as they get sent across the country to oversee jobs.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 8:40 pm to JGood
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I graduated in December and am moving to SC to take over all the estimating up there.
God have mercy on that office.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:16 pm to GeauxLSU25
Heya depending on what your goals are, try to find a position you might think you want for a company 5 years from now. Use LinkedIn search to find those people and look at their backgrounds/experiences.
Also an interesting company to check out is katerra. Best of luck to you.
On another note consider mechanical engineering. It's among the most versatile degrees
Also an interesting company to check out is katerra. Best of luck to you.
On another note consider mechanical engineering. It's among the most versatile degrees
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 1/26/18 at 12:05 am to JGood
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. I graduated in December and am moving to SC to take over all the estimating up there.
Let me give you a hot tip.
It’s not always a bad thing to NOT be low bidder.
I had a partner once in a nice venture. He wanted to hire a guy and told me “he can bring a million dollars worth of work to the firm now.”
I told him I could get a million dollars worth of work in a week. That was easy. Just might cost two million to do it.
We didn’t hire him and he bounced around the industry and eventually after grinding a few of my friendly competitors in the ground ended up running a used car lot on Florida close to Denham.
It’s not about volume of dollars. It’s about the margin on those dollars. Don’t take work just to say you have work. And I’ve seen this all my life.
As an estimator you are exposed. If you miss division 10 or those pile caps, hollow metal doors, the roof, it will show up. Be patient, be thorough and have other eyeballs check your estimate for mistakes. shite happens. Keep it to a minimum.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 12:20 am to baseballmind1212
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I actually interned at MAPP for about 9 months starting summer of my junior year. They are a great compan
MAPP and great company should never be thought of as a direct correlation. There’s a reason they have one of the highest employee turnover rates. Damn near everyone in this industry has spent a few days in and around Third Street.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 12:34 am to 4LSU2
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MAPP and great company should never be thought of as a direct correlation. There’s a reason they have one of the highest employee turnover rates. Damn near everyone in this industry has spent a few days in and around Third Street.
Trying to collect that 120 day old invoice.
If a bomb hit Arkel as well I’d smoke a cigar.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 1:08 am to GeauxLSU25
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Just looking for advice.
Every PM I know is underpaid and miserable.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 5:11 am to GeauxLSU25
Get an engineering degree instead. I dropped out of ChemE and graduated in CM. Bounced around fab shops and industrial jobs and then landed in utility construction. Finally got a break when a connection I made referred me to a spot with one of the major O&G companies, downstream of course. I'm finally a regional construction manager for them and love it, but if I had stuck our ChemE or switched to ME I would have had an easier path.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 5:17 am to 4LSU2
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MAPP and great company should never be thought of as a direct correlation. There’s a reason they have one of the highest employee turnover rates. Damn near everyone in this industry has spent a few days in and around Third Street.
I've heard this a lot. Let me rephrase. They were a great company to intern for. There's a reason I took a job elsewhere.
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