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Construction Management: Industrial and Commercial

Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:52 pm
Posted by GeauxLSU25
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2016
175 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:52 pm
Looking to become a project manager in either industrial or commercial construction. Any advice on which one I should go into or if a field superintendent would be better? Also what is the median salaries for each? I’m a freshman at LSU and would like to start early and intern ASAP. Which company should I look into interning with? Any advice really would be appreciated.
Posted by O
Mandeville
Member since Oct 2011
6451 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:01 am to
Looking to do construction management so you can lie to your parents and say it's better than a business degree?

Go engineering or go to grad school.
Posted by GeauxLSU25
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2016
175 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:04 am to
Lol nahh. Just looking for advice.
Posted by O
Mandeville
Member since Oct 2011
6451 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:35 am to
Okay, you petulant child. Consider a real major and report back.
Posted by King of New Orleans
In front of The Hungry Tiger
Member since Jul 2011
9946 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:42 am to
Experience > everything else
Posted by GeauxLSU25
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2016
175 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:43 am to
Yes ma’am!
Posted by GeauxBlonde
Member since Feb 2013
170 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:57 am to
LSU career services puts out a survey of grads and their beginning salary, CM students are making around $60,000 coming out of college according to this years survey. Internships are a must!

Pick the area you like most... you’ll work more than a 40 hour week, potentially some nights and early mornings depending how involved of a PM you are, so make sure you like what you are doing.
Posted by baseballmind1212
Missouri City
Member since Feb 2011
3255 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:29 am to
quote:

I’m a freshman at LSU and would like to start early and intern ASAP. Which company should I look into interning with?


It's good that you're interested in an internship so early. Most people wait way too late to get one.

Sign up for Construction interview day and CSA and go to all the meetings and both CID'S ever year. It sounds cliché but try to get some FaceTime with the big wigs that talk at all the CSA meetings.

Sign up for as many interviews as possible at CID and take whatever internship is offered to you for the first one. A lot of companies are assholes and don't want to take on someone with 0 experience, so the first internship is the hardest to get.

Once you get your first internships the next one(s) come easy. Graduate with a 3.2 GPA and a couple summers worth of work and you'll be able to pretty much pick your job and location when you get out of school.

I graduated last year. Had about a year of part time work experience in total between 2 different internships. Had several different offers from multiple companies ranging from 45-65k.

Be prepared to work a shite ton fresh out of school. Pretty much everyone I keep up with from my class works at least 50+ hours a week. You can't go wrong with either the field or office side of things. Just depends what you're into.

Usually, later in your career, the PM track has more steady job prospects but field supers have the opportunity to make more money faster.

Landing a job is all about networking.
Posted by GeauxLSU25
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2016
175 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:36 am to
Thank you so much for the advice! I actually joined CSA tonight and went to the first meeting. Talked to some people from MAPP and asked them about interns. They said they take students who have no experience so hopefully I can intern with them soon! Plan on signing up for CID too. I’m sure not many companies will pick freshmen to interview but I heard there is a time frame where you can walk around and talk to different companies so I plan on doing that.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65626 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:09 am to
Hey sport, your well thought-out advice presented in such a clear and positive manner will not win you any friends around here.



Nicely done.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67074 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:19 am to
Attend the Construction Student Association Meetings and get involved. Do the mentorship program, volunteer for the banquet committee, help with the golf tournament, etc. Doing those things gets you opportunities. I ended up getting 2 different internships in undergrad from the mentorship program alone. I met the individual who eventually interviewed and hired me at a golf tournament. The people I know who worked the banquet committee found jobs working for people whom they had solicited for auction items and sold tables to.

Your journey is just beginning. CM is a great field that pays well, and the School of Construction Management has outstanding alumni support and professors that actually do give a damn about you. You will get out what you put in and then some.
Posted by Four Leaf Tayback
Member since Aug 2017
1621 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 4:07 am to
I did 2.5 years at LSU majoring in Construction Management. Ended up getting a awesome summer job 1 year and never went back. Now I’m the Maintenance Manager over all the units in the plant I work in and I just turned 34 years old. It just takes a lot of hard work, sacrifice and time but it’s been well worth it. I was in the right place at the right time and put work in. I’m very blessed.

If I was you, I’d definitely go the industrial route
Posted by baseballmind1212
Missouri City
Member since Feb 2011
3255 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 4:37 am to
quote:

Talked to some people from MAPP and asked them about interns.


I actually interned at MAPP for about 9 months starting summer of my junior year. They are a great company and have lots of different types of projects from heavy commercial to retail.

They were very accommodating with my school schedule. I had a second job while there to pay for school that forced me to work late nights. They were cool with adjusting my schedule so I didn't have to come in running on 3 hours sleep.

Any of the big BR companies are great places to intern. MAPP, Cajun, Stuart, Arkel, Lemoine's BR Office, ISC, Group. All those are great.

Once you get an internship, I can't stress enough how important is to PASS THE DRUG TEST AND SHOW UP. Internships are easy. Your bosses expect you to be there to learn. You'll do basic paper pushing and stuff that isn't all that exciting. They really just want to see if you are capable of doing what you'll say you'll do.

The biggest pet peeve I came across while interning was other interns not showing up. That is the absolute quickest way to lose a shot at a job.

I saw multiple interns get fired because they would say they'd be at the job from x time to y time, then show up an hour late.
Posted by TSS_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2013
189 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 5:34 am to
I hold a CM degree from LSU. In my experience, industrial is the higher paying of the two options if you are willing to put up with the inherent challenges that those types of facilities offer up as opposed to commercial clients and contract groups.

In either route the good news is there are entry level positions in both fields that you can hold while in school.

You may not think that you will gain a lot of practical career experience sweeping a shop floor or putting washers on bolts but you would be surprised. Being around the people doing the type of work that you hope to, one day, direct will help you more than you know. After 4 years you will have a much better view of what type of work you gravitate to and by then you may even be designated as a journeyman of a specific trade (depending on how much effort you put into it).

Another poster said it best experience > education in this field but if you can have a lot of one and a little of the other you will position yourself as a much stronger candidate for someone to take a chance on.

A large percentage of the graduates in the field you are wanting to select will graduate and begin seeking employment feeling as though they are ready to be the boss and change the world when in reality they don't know their arse from a hole in the ground. Do what you have to do to not be "that guy".
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 5:35 am
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 5:49 am to
quote:

LSU career services puts out a survey of grads and their beginning salary, CM students are making around $60,000 coming out of college according to this years survey. Internships are a must!


CM isn't a bad major. A lot of the folks coming right out of school go in to the field where you make more money but work long weeks, get OT, and per diem. The company I work for starts field CM guys out at 32 or 33 an hour while the guys who stay in the office start out at 25 or so. I have an associates in CM and I am making 60k in an office 3 years out from graduating. I interned with this company 1 year before that, unpaid. I had a few years of trade experience coming out, though. I am currently back in school to finish my BS as well.

Good luck and don't waste a summer. Get out there and work, even if you are a helper on a turnaround.
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 6:14 am
Posted by SouthboundTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2014
1069 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 5:52 am to
You’re on the right track for wanting to intern so early. I too did the same thing. I interned at a company for 3 years in college and ended up staying on with them after college, even though I had plenty of offers from other companies.

The best advice I can give is that if you land an internship and like the company AND have the opportunity to hire on full time after school, then do it! I have had SO many more opportunities through my current employer because of the time I spent as an intern. I even transferred divisions and was afforded some amazing opportunities because of my prior experience as an intern.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11803 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 6:28 am to
Have no experience in the industrial side, but do in the commercial side. Internship is a huge must. Also some field experience would help.

Don’t just try the general contractors. Try electrical and mechanical contractors as well. The interns we hired in the past all had job offered in the industry before graduation.
Posted by RodFarva
Spurbury, Vermont
Member since Jun 2015
575 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 6:33 am to
quote:

Looking to do construction management so you can lie to your parents and say it's better than a business degree?


Says the guy who knows nothing.

CM is good. You’ll figure it out if you wanna be a PM or a Super. Get an internship and don’t be like some of these idiots who wait until after they graduate and think there’s a job waiting for them. Your starting salary won’t be $60,000 it will be more along the lines of $45,000-$52,000. I would suggest you apply at ARKEL, Milton Womack, Lemoine, Bouquet & LeBlanc, Cangelosi Ward or Lincoln. The first 3 companies I listed are the bigger companies in town.
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 6:34 am
Posted by Libertariantiger
Member since Nov 2012
981 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:44 am to
quote:

Looking to do construction management so you can lie to your parents and say it's better than a business degree? 

Go engineering or go to grad school.


I can't speak for everyone, but when I was there, the business school required a 3.0 and CM a 2.5. So, there is some truth to this. The CM people will get all butthurt, but you will be one of the few CM kids that start/finish wanting to do that. Most are former engineers and business majors that can't cut it.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22283 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:57 am to
First thing I'd suggest is an apprenticeship with a big firm. Making a decision like this without first getting your hands dirty is ill-advised.
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 8:32 am
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