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re: Concrete Pilings Transported on I-10
Posted on 8/4/16 at 9:51 am to CarRamrod
Posted on 8/4/16 at 9:51 am to CarRamrod
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you get the same load capacities with one 24" pile that it take 2 or 3 12" piles to effect.
thats not necessarily true.
Correct. It depends on the location/soil type. If you're needing end bearing, the 24 will be a little more efficient, but if you're relying on friction alone, you're better off with more of the 12" piles.
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 9:54 am to dafuqusay
quote:might have been more economical to use displacement piles.
We drove 8,000 90' steel H piles at Marathon in Detroit.
Posted on 8/4/16 at 9:57 am to Boudreaux35
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Correct. It depends on the location/soil type. If you're needing end bearing, the 24 will be a little more efficient, but if you're relying on friction alone, you're better off with more of the 12" piles
i get into this with my geotechs all the time, and i really come to the conclusion that while you calculate end bearing and skin friction, they are just an estimation of the capacity. If read papers here most of your capacity comes from skin friction no mater how you design it. 
Posted on 8/4/16 at 10:47 am to CarRamrod
quote:Come down off your Ivory Tower, no one except wanna-be know-it-all look-at-me-I'm-the-smartest-guy-on-the-interwebs-today nerds call it a "PPC girder", nerd.
you guys are killing me. That is a PPC girder.
No one has ever made the following question to their spouse: "How many PPC Girders did you see on the road today honey?"
When you refer to a bad heart attack do you call it an acute myocardial infarction? Didn't think so.
To normal laymen those items are Concrete Piles (or Piling) and Concrete Beams or Concrete Girders.
This post was edited on 8/4/16 at 10:49 am
Posted on 8/4/16 at 10:52 am to Paul Redeker
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I thought they might be pilings, but I didn't realize they went that deep.
They get over 100' on some projects.
Posted on 8/4/16 at 11:04 am to Paul Redeker
They are coming from Boykin Brothers near Highland Rd. in Baton Rouge and headed to the New Orleans Airport where Boh Brothers is installing them to support new foundations.
I'm not sure how long they are, but definitely some of the longer concrete piles you will see. We have driven 120' concrete piles in 1 piece, I'd be curious to know how long those are that are currently being trucked.
I'm not sure how long they are, but definitely some of the longer concrete piles you will see. We have driven 120' concrete piles in 1 piece, I'd be curious to know how long those are that are currently being trucked.
This post was edited on 8/4/16 at 11:08 am
Posted on 8/4/16 at 11:06 am to Paul Redeker
Certainly not going to any loop construction
Posted on 8/4/16 at 11:06 am to Paul Redeker
They are headed from Boykin to the site for the new airport, where they are driving pile.
Posted on 8/4/16 at 11:08 am to soccerfüt
you have to be specific if you want your cost estimate right.
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Those look like either 12" or 14" square prestressed concrete piles, used to support (and secure) heavy foundations.
quote:dont be upset i corrected you when you were trying to be a know it all.
The state (LADOTD) usually uses larger square piles, you get the same load capacities with one 24" pile that it take 2 or 3 12" piles to effect. It takes a bigger crane to handle & drive a larger pile but in the end it's usually more efficient (less lifts, quicker casting schedules,etc.) for the overall project.
This post was edited on 8/4/16 at 11:12 am
Posted on 8/4/16 at 11:16 am to baseballmind1212
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damn. 490? I interned at a deep foundations company for a while and I think the biggest project I worked on was like 200. Couldn't imagine doing double that.
We've worked on numerous projects where we installed 30,000-40,000 piles, primarily for the new LNG faciltiies. 200 is only a few days worth of work lol
This post was edited on 8/4/16 at 11:17 am
Posted on 8/4/16 at 12:49 pm to Mark Makers
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We have driven 120' concrete piles in 1 piece
Calling BS
Posted on 8/4/16 at 12:59 pm to Maniac979
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Calling BS
It's the truth but call it how you want
Posted on 8/4/16 at 1:04 pm to Mark Makers
Yeah, people not from the area would be amazed to know how deep some of that shite has to go.
Someone told me a funny story about some cocky guy from up north who came down to do some work(I think a new home construction) and he thought a 10 ft pile would work fine. They set up the driver and he watched in amazement when the first time they pounded it the thing sunk all the way into the ground and sent below grade.
Someone told me a funny story about some cocky guy from up north who came down to do some work(I think a new home construction) and he thought a 10 ft pile would work fine. They set up the driver and he watched in amazement when the first time they pounded it the thing sunk all the way into the ground and sent below grade.
Posted on 8/4/16 at 1:08 pm to notiger1997
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They set up the driver and he watched in amazement when the first time they pounded it the thing sunk all the way into the ground and sent below grade.
Posted on 8/4/16 at 1:09 pm to Maniac979
quote:30" Square Prestressed Concrete Piles can go up to 178' long each in Florida*.
Calling BS
Smaller pile (14" square) can use splices between two ~100'+ long individual piles to effectively yield a pile in place over 200' long.
* FDOT Link
But I'm not an expert, I've just had piles.
Posted on 8/4/16 at 1:19 pm to soccerfüt
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They set up the driver and he watched in amazement when the first time they pounded it the thing sunk all the way into the ground and sent below grade.
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30" Square Prestressed Concrete Piles can go up to 178' long each in Florida*.
You should see the monopiles we put in the Mississippi River. They are rolled steel pipe and frequently get up to 96" in diameter and up to 200'-220' long. The wall thickness changes sizes throughout the length of the pile, usually the thickest part of the pile is at the mud line, and gets up to 2"-2.5" wall thickness often. EX: We drove a 96" x 220' monopole for a facility on the MS river in 2013 that weighed 305,000 Lbs.
I'm sure this is nothing compared to offshore work though, but that's out of my element.
This post was edited on 8/4/16 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 8/4/16 at 2:00 pm to Mark Makers
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You should see the monopiles we put in the Mississippi River. They are rolled steel pipe and frequently get up to 96" in diameter and up to 200'-220' long. The wall thickness changes sizes throughout the length of the pile, usually the thickest part of the pile is at the mud line, and gets up to 2"-2.5" wall thickness often. EX: We drove a 96" x 220' monopole for a facility on the MS river in 2013 that weighed 305,000 Lbs.
I'm sure this is nothing compared to offshore work though, but that's out of my element.
That is massive. Would love to see that installation. i work in refinery and chem plants so Ive been around, steel H, auger cast, drill shafts, and concrete piles. I ve always wanted to see how pile installation occurs for bridges or platforms across rivers or deep sea.
This post was edited on 8/4/16 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 8/4/16 at 3:15 pm to Paul Redeker
This reminds me of when I used to always see wind turbine nacelles on I-10 and couldn't figure out what they were for the life of me. I finally went on a tour at one of the USDOE's research facilities and saw one laying on the ground and put 2 and 2 together.
This post was edited on 8/4/16 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 8/4/16 at 3:18 pm to dafuqusay
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That is massive. Would love to see that installation. i work in refinery and chem plants so Ive been around, steel H, auger cast, drill shafts, and concrete piles. I ve always wanted to see how pile installation occurs for bridges or platforms across rivers or deep sea.
I could e-mail you a few pictures if interested
Posted on 8/4/16 at 3:19 pm to Maniac979
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Calling BS
BS hung up on you.
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